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re: Competition for College Admissions in Texas is unreal

Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:08 am to
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7617 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:08 am to
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The majority of the students were “professional students” who went to additional schooling after the regular school day and also went to tutoring sessions on Saturday.


I’ve heard about this. My wife’s friend moved to Katy a few years back (she’s also a teacher), and she told us the same thing.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9643 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:09 am to
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It really really is. They'll take anyone from Texas while being strangely choosy when it comes to Louisiana citizens. LSU is a strange place.




Well thats easy to understand.

In/Out state tuition baw
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12281 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:10 am to
The top 10% deal makes Texas high schools the most competitive I've ever heard of.

I don't plan on my kids going to Texas universities. I just don't care if they do. I didn't go to Mizzou. Or some other Missouri school. And I was like your son. Slightly better grades and ACT.

Even in 2004 that was good enough to get in to Mizzou but not good enough to get good money. Got me into LSU for free though and that's where I went before moving to Houston to make good money as a lawyer. It all works out.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
20359 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:11 am to
The Blinn pipeline seems like a good bet. Credit hours are cheaper and if the grades are there she gets into A&M.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53397 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:17 am to
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The top 10% deal makes Texas high schools the most competitive I've ever heard of.



I recently read a story of a Texas high school that was so small, a graduating senior technically couldn't be in the top 10% b/c there were less than 10 students graduating.

It caused this big mess when the student was applying to schools in Texas.
Posted by cupchu1
Member since Aug 2012
419 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:18 am to
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StringedInstruments


I have no idea how admissions work behind the scenes, but based on my experiences at a Texas high school and the experiences of my siblings, I would have said OP’s son had no shot at UT.

Also, my sister missed top 25% by one person, and she didn’t get in to A&M. She was in an after school group that helped run the MADD and DARE stuff, an officer on the well respected school dance team, and competed at the regional level for band. She had to do a year at an Aggie satellite campus before transferring to College Station.

There’s always someone with a better story, a better essay, a better rec, better volunteer work, and better extracurriculars.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66216 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:21 am to
You can thank the top 10% rule which auto allows kids from shite schools with worse SAT scores for that
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:25 am to
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Holy shite, WTF is going on here?


A large part of it is auto enrollment from shitty schools.

Your kids got refused, but a 3.3 GPA, 25 ACT from Bumfrick High got in.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:26 am to
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Academically Texas and Texas aTm are on par with Ivy League schools.


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This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:31 am to
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Doesn't UT Dallas have a couple of very good programs?


Yes. I was just giving OP shite
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:31 am to
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If she didn’t get into Texas, she likely isn’t getting into even a lower tier Ivy.
I know of two Texas residents that got into Brown/Dartmouth and didn't get into Texas

Texas went full retard with the top 10% automatically getting in from high school

The two kids I know went to Strake Jesuit in Houston, and had well over a 4.0 and bear perfect ACT scores. They got into Brown/Dartmouth, but did not get into UT
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19859 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:31 am to
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A large part of it is auto enrollment from shitty schools.

Your kids got refused, but a 3.3 GPA, 25 ACT from Bumfrick High got in.



So it sounds like Texas is "spreading the wealth." Wealthy, white, suburban kids at highly ranked, prestigious high schools are in a cutthroat competition to go to college whereas the underprivileged now have the inside track if they can do well in school.

Is there a time frame requirement for it? UT Austin says "Top 7% by the end of their junior year." Could I move to an inner-city kill zone for my kid's junior year, dominate the class rank chart with a good ACT score, and get into UT Austin automatically?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18760 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:35 am to
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The Blinn pipeline seems like a good bet. Credit hours are cheaper and if the grades are there she gets into A&M.



The one thing I don't like about these pipeline type programs is that it really breaks up the more traditional college experience. I'm still close with a good group of guys I met freshman year at LSU. Do people still make these kinds of lifelong type connections with friends at their "temporary" college?

Also, what about people that want to pledge? They have to wait a whole year or more and then go through rush as an upperclassman. For those that want to be in the band, they may only get a couple of years to play at their favorite school.

All of this is arbitrarily based on class ranking.

Obviously, kids like in OP that have great grades and test scores can get into many fine out of state institutions and probably get good money at the less popular Texas schools. Yet I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for a lot of these kids to feel like they must put some of their dreams on hold. Academically though, it may actually be better to spend some time at a smaller school first. However, that may feel like a major setback for someone that was already a very high achiever.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24596 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:40 am to
If they really want to go to UT, they should try their soph year when many of the 7%ers fail out.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:43 am to
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he did get auto accepted into Texas A&M. He chose to go to UT-Dallas 


Good decision. Better to go to UT-Dallas than to turn queer.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:43 am to
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“At least we can get into UT, LSU was the backup for most of you.”


When I was a senior in HS in Louisiana I strongly considered going to a Texas school. Baylor and TCU were tripping over themselves trying to get me to go to their schools. They rolled out the red carpet and offered me some great scholarships on my visits. When I went to UT the admissions counselor straight up told me that "UT is a Texas thing", meaning I was wasting her time.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90040 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:44 am to
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The two kids I know went to Strake Jesuit in Houston, and had well over a 4.0 and bear perfect ACT scores. They got into Brown/Dartmouth, but did not get into UT



I have a difficult time believing a 36 on the ACT wouldn't get them admitted, but otherwise I believe your story.

Getting into top tier public schools when you live in the state is a mess. Fortunately LA doesn't have that problem.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42087 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:45 am to
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Good decision. Better to go to UT-Dallas than to turn queer.



That is true. Austin is still very much weird and gay.

Already auto accepted to UT-D for the MBA program but im deciding if I want to do that or get a Masters in Communications / Electrical Engineering (Telecom).

UT-D is not really a big step down from the big school and has a lot of good/great programs.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 7:46 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19859 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:46 am to
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All of this is arbitrarily based on class ranking.


Another question I have is how does UT Austin and Texas A&M handle AP courses?

I was top 25% of my high school class, but I was way smarter than some of our salutatorians who took the easiest classes available. Sure, they were hard workers and they should be commended. But I'm pretty sure I would have made all A's if I took Algebra III my senior year instead of AP Calculus. I remember one of the options for senior year science was "Earth Science" while I was in AP Physics.

Seems like there's an incentive to not take AP classes to get that top 7% mark at a lower-ranked high school.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:47 am to
I said near perfect (they were like 33or 34)

And they didn't get in. But they also weren't "top 10%" of their graduating glass, and they were in state Texas honkies
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