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re: Competition for College Admissions in Texas is unreal

Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:06 am to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:06 am to
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Because of where we live, they got a fantastic HS education but shut out of Texas.


Yep, this is the irony of Texas high schools. The state has some of the best public schools in the entire country, but because of the percent rule it is tougher to get into the best state universities from those schools.

It is fricked up. But hey, send your kids to LSU or OU or Arizona State. They'll get a good education, have a great time, and be just as successful in life.

PS You didn't want to send them to that cow college in College Station anyways.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:25 am to
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Then your kid doesn't know the specifics. 34+ ACT scores and 4.3 GPAs on a minority gets you accepted wherever you'd like to go assuming you did anything outside of being just a student.

You damn sure aren't getting turned down by Georgia Tech.


This isn't true, depending on the major (and what minority you are).

Computer science or engineering at an elite school, they have 10 times the applicants they can accept and they all have those stats.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:06 am to
They certainly invest a lot of money into education in the Houston area. Tomball built new schools 5 years ago. Just announced yesterday they are building more for 272 million to update the "older" ones.

We live in NW Houston and have pretty good schools here as well.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:09 am to
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So I don’t think you’re evidence to support those extemely high test scores is as sound as you think


So you’re saying that having 6 kids who scored in the top 1% on the NMSQT isn’t solid evidence that 6 kids could score in the top 1% on the ACT? Sound logic right there.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:51 am to
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Computer science or engineering at an elite school, they have 10 times the applicants they can accept and they all have those stats.



yeah there is a sideways discussion about Ivy league admissions earlier in the thread and some dont seem to get that the Top 5 grads at damn near every high school in the country are applying to the Elites like Stanford, Ivies, Vandy, Rice, etc

Like I said earlier the Senior HS Counselor said to my daughter's class that admissions at that level is all about personal Back Story, Essay and Alumni Endorsements. Everyone applying at that level has sky high Test Scores and Grades, is all state in music, or champion debaters, or award winning artists, or Habitat for Humanity Leaders etc etc

My son applied to Rice on a flyer, had some nice Rec Letters (even Owlie pitched in) from Rice Alums/Faculty, but got cut before the interviews stage of the process.

The thing they all kept coming back to while corresponding with him was this "we know what Rice will do for you, what will you do for Rice while you are here and after you are gone?"

That is what is killing Texas Exes right now with the 7% rule. UofTexas is missing out on a ton of kids from the Top high schools in the big cities/suburbs and Texas is stuck with a lot of country kids that flunk out and a lot foreign kids that graduate and disappear. TAMU and the other UT schools are feasting on the big suburban HSs with their more attainable auto-enrollment standards.
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6120 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:54 am to
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Sul Ross is nice.


Played football there against them once... Holy shite... Talk about the middle of nowhere.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20550 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:58 am to
A 30 ACT will get you a damn near full ride at probably 95% of schools in the country, a 34 is almost 100% and that's whether you are white or anything else.

If they truly have a 30 ACT, they should be looking at all kinds of other states because they can get close to a full academic ride at many SEC schools with that score.

The whole 7% thing is a joke if your kids got over 30 then they must not be doing much outside of school. Yes, large states you will have a harder time getting into the primary state schools its a pretty basic concept.

Unless you moved here last year, its really not that difficult now a days to know exactly what schools are looking for. Rec letters and everything else are not that difficult to get for anyone in a somewhat professional degree field.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70644 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:59 am to
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My son applied to Rice on a flyer, had some nice Rec Letters (even Owlie pitched in)


and then

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got cut before the interviews stage of the process.


Cause meet effect
Posted by bless u boys
Member since Oct 2011
933 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:12 pm to
Supa - Great discussion. My son will be a freshman @ Katy Taylor next year. I have friends that have moved west into Tompkins/7Ls,and are now considering moving back to Taylor school zone for the very reasons stated.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87530 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:13 pm to
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Supa - Great discussion. My son will be a freshman @ Katy Taylor next year. I have friends that have moved west into Tompkins/7Ls,and are now considering moving back to Taylor school zone for the very reasons stated.


actually if I had it to do over again, we would still go to tompkins but we would have a much better understanding of the way things work and try to get ahead of it.

or I would follow the lead of my buddy (also from Louisiana) with Schlumberger who just relocated here to Katy from the SLB HQ in Clamart, France. His two kids are HS age and coming from an American School there. They moved in to Lakes at Bella Figura and are going to Foster. So they have a brand new house, same amenities and shopping as we do in Cinco Ranch, a beautiful HS and a MUCH lower threshold for success because they are FBISD and not KISD


to those questioning my kids extra-curricular involvement

My son was an officer on the Debate Team, member of Academic Decathlon team, German Club and NHS

My daughter is an officer in the Theatre Department, member of PALS and she was a cheerleader. PALs is the performing arts outreach group that goes to the local elementary schools and talks about the fine arts with kids
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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A 30 ACT will get you a damn near full ride at probably 95% of schools in the country, a 34 is almost 100% and that's whether you are white or anything else


Not really. You need a 33-34 for that.
A 30 appears to get you around half to 3/4 of tuition at many, but not a full ride (dorm, books, etc.).

The list of schools giving a full ride for National Merit Finalists even seems to be dwindling.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:27 pm to
33 ACT starts the conversation of "full ride" for non-minority applicants but is no guarantee

26 gets a Texas kid the Texas Tiger Scholarship but 33 is required to get the next tier of schollies from LSU as an OOS non-minority applicant

LINK /

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Texas Tigers

Residency Requirement: Texas Resident

GPA Requirement: 3.0 six-semester high school GPA, weighted by LSU

Test Score Requirement (ACT, New SAT, or Old SAT): ACT: 26 composite minimum

New SAT: 1240 total score minimum

Old SAT: 1170 critical reading and math combined score minimum


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President’s Alumni Scholars Award

Test Score Requirement (ACT, New SAT, or Old SAT): 33 ACT composite score

1490 New SAT Total Score

1440 Old SAT critical reading and math combined score

GPA Requirement: 3.5 six-semester high school GPA, weighted by LSU

Writing Score Requirement: official ACT or SAT writing score submitted to LSU

Priority Deadline Requirement: November 15 priority deadline met

Honors Requirement: accepted to Ogden Honors College


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Stamps Scholarship

Test Score Requirement (ACT, New SAT, or Old SAT): 33 ACT
composite score

1490 New SAT Total Score

1440 Old SAT critical reading and math combined score

GPA Requirement: 3.5 six-semester high school GPA, weighted by LSU

Writing Score Requirement: official ACT or SAT writing score submitted to LSU

Priority Deadline Requirement: November 15 priority deadline met

Honors Requirement: accepted to Ogden Honors College


my son's ex-GF got a full tuition waiver from UT-Dallas with a 4.2 and a 32 ACT but she went Early decision and committed immediately, she still had to pay room/board/books
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20550 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Not really. You need a 33-34 for that. A 30 appears to get you around half to 3/4 of tuition at many, but not a full ride (dorm, books, etc.).


Well agreed but that's why I said damn near full ride, it's not worth $5,000 a year to go to a school you like less imo.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36744 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:44 pm to
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KT


I know some dudes that graduated in 08 but i get the impression you are older
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36744 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:47 pm to
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son applied to Rice on a flyer, had some nice Rec Letters (even Owlie pitched in) from Rice Alums/Faculty, but got cut before the interviews stage of the process.



It’s probably easier to get an MBA from rice than to get in undergrad
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31946 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:59 pm to
Supa, is there any discernible difference between Cinco Ranch, Tombkins, and Seven Lakes? They all seem to be nearly identical as the top public in the greater Houston area along with Clements in Sugarland. Other than zoning, of course.

I am just amazed at the number of people who are either able to find a job that is based that far out from Houston or are willing to do the commute if they are working downtown or the Galleria.

Seems to be that the obvious choice for you is to have your daughter go to UTSA for a year and then move to Austin. What’s the gpa requirement to make the transfer official?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:03 pm to
Pay for SMU and get her a rich husband with some family oil money.

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112784 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:07 pm to
How many Texas helicopter moms and dads are going to drive their kids batshit before college? I couldn't imagine having to worry about my HS schedule that much.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8656 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Academically Texas and Texas aTm are on par with Ivy League schools. Great schools.


lmfao
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36744 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Pay for SMU and get her a rich husband with some family oil money.


How much cocaine allowance?
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