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re: Competition for College Admissions in Texas is unreal
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I honestly have very, very few conscious memories of cracking open a textbook in HS, it was mainly just cramming notes and PP slides. I spent more time in one semester in football/basketball practice than I did studying combined my entire 4 years I'd bet.
Anyone that has to do any significant amount of studying for normal high school coursework is gong to have a tough time in any type of challenging college curriculum.
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:36 pm to EA6B
Generally I agree
It's why the idea of AP coursework is misleading IMO, it really doesn't adequately prepare you for college curriculum at all. The hardest AP test I ever took was still easier than any science or engineering exam I took in college.
It's why the idea of AP coursework is misleading IMO, it really doesn't adequately prepare you for college curriculum at all. The hardest AP test I ever took was still easier than any science or engineering exam I took in college.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
I went to one of the crazy competitive schools supa is talking about in Katy. I thought it preped me well for college. Well at least how to properly study and prepare.
Had a 4.3. Not too 10% but in the top quarter. I think I got like a 1250-1280 SAT when it was out of 1600. I guess I studied a decent amount but played sports year round as well. I worry what my kids HS experience will be like.
Got into A&M. Not UT. Went to LSU (family history and scholarships) and breezed through my business undergrad in three years. My masters at A&M was also easier than high school. Probably because I generally hated my AP science classes and didn’t have to deal with those in college.
I also bet is supa’s daughter went to mayde creek or Morton she’d probably be choosing between A&M and UT right now.
Had a 4.3. Not too 10% but in the top quarter. I think I got like a 1250-1280 SAT when it was out of 1600. I guess I studied a decent amount but played sports year round as well. I worry what my kids HS experience will be like.
Got into A&M. Not UT. Went to LSU (family history and scholarships) and breezed through my business undergrad in three years. My masters at A&M was also easier than high school. Probably because I generally hated my AP science classes and didn’t have to deal with those in college.
I also bet is supa’s daughter went to mayde creek or Morton she’d probably be choosing between A&M and UT right now.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:47 pm to tylercsbn9
The first year of engineering courses at A&M is basically an attempt to weed out those who won't cut it. Some like freshman chemistry for engineers are ridiculously hard and a large portion switch majors by sophomore years.
Upper level engineering courses here are on the level of absurdity at times, but by then you've only got the best and brightest still cutting it so the class averages are pretty high.
Medical school was a bit easier IMO than engineering at A&M. You are fed through a fire hydrant in med school but no individual class is as hard as the engineering classes I had.
Upper level engineering courses here are on the level of absurdity at times, but by then you've only got the best and brightest still cutting it so the class averages are pretty high.
Medical school was a bit easier IMO than engineering at A&M. You are fed through a fire hydrant in med school but no individual class is as hard as the engineering classes I had.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:50 pm to supatigah
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Just found out my daughter didn’t get into Texas or Texas A&M.
She got CAP for Texas
She got Texas A&M Blinn Team offer
That being said my son went through this same thing last year. He didn’t get into Texas but he did get auto accepted into Texas A&M.
More proof A&M only goes for guys
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 pm to supatigah
Your kids are probably too white
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:00 am to tylercsbn9
Seven Lakes or CR?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:15 am to TigrrrDad
quote:The School Distict I currently live in has 3 high schools, all about the size of Northshore, they had 40 National Merit Semifinalists, which is next to a district with 2 high schools and 26 National Merit Semifinalists, which is next to a district with 1 high school and 14 National Merit Semifinalists. I haven’t even looked at a couple of the most affluent districts yet or the private schools.
National Merit Semifinalists are also the top 1%, and Northshore High has been routinely cranking out 5-6 per year.
So I don’t think you’re evidence to support those extemely high test scores is as sound as you think.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:07 am to supatigah
Read the whole dang thread.
Here's the rub for college these days: an undergrad degree simply isn't cutting it anymore in the white collar working world. You HAVE to get at least a Master's Degree to get in the door for a job interview with a starting salary of +$50,000.
Texas resident parents are about to realize that going to going to schools like UT-Dallas, UT-Arlington, TAMU-CC, TAMU-Galveston, etc in order to matriculate up to the main Austin or CS campuses are the route to take for less stress, money spending, etc.
Another piece of the discussion that comes in to play is the club sports kid playing ball in a different town every weekend in hopes of landing a scholarship. No one thinks their kid is getting a full ride (outside of football or basketball) but the scholarship (partial) is based on general acceptance to the college, which does not fall into the Top 7%/ACT score/Class Rank parameters. Those acceptances into the school come from a completely separate pool.
What all of this is doing is creating massive growth, unlike any seen before, at the rest of the schools in the state. Buildings, housing, amenities, etc are going up every single semester.
Parents need to start having more serious conversations with their kid, often, about what they want out of their HS & undergraduate college experiences. Because the stress these kids are under these days is killing actual life experiences.
Here's the rub for college these days: an undergrad degree simply isn't cutting it anymore in the white collar working world. You HAVE to get at least a Master's Degree to get in the door for a job interview with a starting salary of +$50,000.
Texas resident parents are about to realize that going to going to schools like UT-Dallas, UT-Arlington, TAMU-CC, TAMU-Galveston, etc in order to matriculate up to the main Austin or CS campuses are the route to take for less stress, money spending, etc.
Another piece of the discussion that comes in to play is the club sports kid playing ball in a different town every weekend in hopes of landing a scholarship. No one thinks their kid is getting a full ride (outside of football or basketball) but the scholarship (partial) is based on general acceptance to the college, which does not fall into the Top 7%/ACT score/Class Rank parameters. Those acceptances into the school come from a completely separate pool.
What all of this is doing is creating massive growth, unlike any seen before, at the rest of the schools in the state. Buildings, housing, amenities, etc are going up every single semester.
Parents need to start having more serious conversations with their kid, often, about what they want out of their HS & undergraduate college experiences. Because the stress these kids are under these days is killing actual life experiences.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:39 am to supatigah
My brother in law went to Texas and he is intelligent but not off the charts. They must have really raised academic standards in the last 10 years , but it seems the way they tally GPA it is all bs now and it seems more like you have to manipulate the scheduling as that Facebook group suggests to get your kid in.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:01 am to supatigah
The real question that needs to be asked is, what did they make on the SAT?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:24 am to supatigah
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Fixated on race? I am just telling you all how it is here
The diversity here for my kids school is a selling point of the area. We love it. My kids inner circle of friends are Indians, Asians and African kids with the usual white kids sprinkled in
My little white princess? Why are you trying to insult me?
A lot of people have absolutely no clue what it is like to live over here. It is diversity on steroids.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:27 am to Rize
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I would recommend LSU but apparently they are only accepting 3 stars and 70 year olds.
Legit lol'ed. Well done.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:56 am to supatigah
quote:
Seven Lakes or CR?
KT
They didn’t have all those other schools in Cinco besides CR when I graduated. The two super competitive schools were KT and CR
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:04 am to TigrrrDad
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Literally every word I’ve stated in my posts is true. And I’m not guessing or generalizing on the scores - before I posted I asked my kid to name each kid and their score. Northshore also routinely has 6-8 kids that tie for Valedictorian each year, which basically means they all finish with straight A’s with 4-5 AP/Honors courses per year
Then your kid doesn't know the specifics. 34+ ACT scores and 4.3 GPAs on a minority gets you accepted wherever you'd like to go assuming you did anything outside of being just a student.
You damn sure aren't getting turned down by Georgia Tech.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:30 am to tylercsbn9
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They didn’t have all those other schools in Cinco besides CR when I graduated. The two super competitive schools were KT and CR
oh OK
right now Seven Lakes is the dominant school for academics in KISD because Tompkins is still too new to be fully ranked. My son's class last year was the first full four year class, my daughter's class will be the second full four year class. The size difference is about 300 kids from last years graduates (~400) to this year's grads (~750)
That being said, once Tompkins does get ranked it will be by far the highest ranked KISD school. The test scores for these most recent classes are pretty amazing
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:31 am to TigerJack8
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The real question that needs to be asked is, what did they make on the SAT?
both took it once, they each took the ACT three times
my son - 1380
my daughter - 1310
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:35 am to supatigah
Noticed you didn't post their SAT scores.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:42 am to supatigah
quote:
My son graduated in the Top 17% of his class at a Katy ISD school.
I was in a similar situation at Kingwood High School maybe 15-20 years ago. I was in the Top 15% but not the Top 10%. KHS was (and still is) one of the best public schools in the state with a very large student body. Top 15% there is probably better than Top 5% (or even Top 2-3%) in a lot of other schools around the state. But, because of Texas' 10% rule, I was looking at being iced out of UT.
I saw the writing on the wall, took advantage of a credit loophole, and graduated from high school a year early. I then went to community college for a year, made straight A's, and got into UT. I transferred there the next year and finished after three more years.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:58 am to HubbaBubba
just did above you
I realize my kids are not anything special academically in this area and in their school. In our house we all realize that and that is why I said I am not starting this thread to try to brag or anything. We are very proud of them, they worked very hard and they will be fine in college
what I was trying to do with this thread is talk about how ridiculous some of this stuff is related to grade manipulation, schedule manipulation, class rank manipulation and admissions into Texas and TAMU. If we lived five miles to the West, South or North they both would have easily gotten in to Texas and TAMU. Because of where we live, they got a fantastic HS education but shut out of Texas. That is pretty amazing to think about
My daughter told me last night there is some controversy in her graduating class Top 10. There is one kid that was in the Top 10 at the end of last year that is a unicorn at her school. He is a white male football player that has been an unusually high academic achiever all of his life. There was an agreement between all of the kids in the Top 10 to limit their online AP classes this summer to basically keep the Class Rankings Status quo going into their senior year.
The other nine kids all broke the agreement and added extra online courses this summer. The Football player kid went from #7 to #12 by the start of the first day of senior year with no hope to catch up and get back into the Top 10. The significance is the Top 10 all graduate on stage, get recognized individually and have their Bios read during the ceremony. Can you guess what parts of the world the kids now in the Top 10 can trace their roots to?
COLD BLOODED.
I realize my kids are not anything special academically in this area and in their school. In our house we all realize that and that is why I said I am not starting this thread to try to brag or anything. We are very proud of them, they worked very hard and they will be fine in college
what I was trying to do with this thread is talk about how ridiculous some of this stuff is related to grade manipulation, schedule manipulation, class rank manipulation and admissions into Texas and TAMU. If we lived five miles to the West, South or North they both would have easily gotten in to Texas and TAMU. Because of where we live, they got a fantastic HS education but shut out of Texas. That is pretty amazing to think about
My daughter told me last night there is some controversy in her graduating class Top 10. There is one kid that was in the Top 10 at the end of last year that is a unicorn at her school. He is a white male football player that has been an unusually high academic achiever all of his life. There was an agreement between all of the kids in the Top 10 to limit their online AP classes this summer to basically keep the Class Rankings Status quo going into their senior year.
The other nine kids all broke the agreement and added extra online courses this summer. The Football player kid went from #7 to #12 by the start of the first day of senior year with no hope to catch up and get back into the Top 10. The significance is the Top 10 all graduate on stage, get recognized individually and have their Bios read during the ceremony. Can you guess what parts of the world the kids now in the Top 10 can trace their roots to?
COLD BLOODED.
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