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re: Comparing Delta to Omicron: Cases, Hospitalizations, Vents
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:02 am to Lieutenant Dan
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:02 am to Lieutenant Dan
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Interesting that you think people are gonna swarm to another useless "fix" propped up by big pharma.
It’s not unlike Tami-flu. But you do you, this is America. I will bookmark this post and we can revisit this in a years time.
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:13 am to Warfox
Your 99:1 ratio is at odds with statistics from around the world and sound anecdotally full of shite. We have antivirals that are and have been available and are and have been effective. But, the infinite wisdom of your puppet masters has shut the door on them in favor of big pharma interests.
So do us non sheep a favor and stfu
So do us non sheep a favor and stfu
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:29 am to Displaced
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It's main target is vaxxed.
Stop spouting this retarded drivel.
Trust the science, until you don’t like the science. Then you find new science.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:29 am to Warfox
I'd like to see the ACTUAL numbers on the "unvaccinated, or not completely vaccinated" people who are hospitalized. Sounds like the numbers are inflated due to the lack of a logical definition of what "completely vaccinated" is.
Don't forget, lots of extra federal(and insurance)money is paid to the hospitals to treat "covid" patients. It's in the hospitals best interest to inflate the numbers whenever they can.
Don't forget, lots of extra federal(and insurance)money is paid to the hospitals to treat "covid" patients. It's in the hospitals best interest to inflate the numbers whenever they can.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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Oh I was assuming that in my earlier post about where the spread comes from. Everyone is getting Omicron. There is like 10-15% of the population who won't get it, and I assume a lot of those already had Covid not long ago and have antibodies preventing an Omicron infection.
The estimate is just over 10% in La HAVE NOT got it. Those people either live in a cave and come out once a month or have something specific to their physical makeup that is preventing it. Buddy at work has literally had his whole house catch it twice and he has never tested positive. He was vaccinated FWIW.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:40 am to CitizenK
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The data is faulty, could be admitted for gunshot wound, car accident, etc... and just happened to test positive on admittance, especially for Omicron
Are you so blindly attached to this talking point to stick your head in the sand whenever data is brought up that you don’t even bother to think about it?
It’s a one to one comparison between the two. Even if you want to assume what you mentioned is a major issue, pretty sure the rate of gun and car accidents and their severity are the same between the two.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:45 am to Warfox
What is the average age and weight of the 99% unjabbed on your acute Covid unit?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:33 pm to STEVED00
Just to update this from after the weekend stats dropped:
Cases down to around 3k a day (peak was around 13 on January 8)
Hospitalizations down over 400 in the last 11 days (2367 on 1/19 to 1942 on 1/30)
Vents down to 165 from a high of 181 on 1/26.
Cases down to around 3k a day (peak was around 13 on January 8)
Hospitalizations down over 400 in the last 11 days (2367 on 1/19 to 1942 on 1/30)
Vents down to 165 from a high of 181 on 1/26.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:36 pm to STEVED00
Is Delta still going around or Omicron only, regarding Louisiana?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:42 pm to kisatchie53
According to LDH, it’s 97.8% Omicron and 2.2% Delta. Delta is up from 0.5% last week.
That being said, I’ve heard a lot of the people that are really sick are Delta holdovers FWIW.
That being said, I’ve heard a lot of the people that are really sick are Delta holdovers FWIW.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:46 pm to upgrayedd
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Isn't more contagious and less severe the natural progression of all pandemics?
Absolutely not. It depends entirely on the morphology of the virus.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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Isn't more contagious and less severe the natural progression of all pandemics?
Absolutely not. It depends entirely on the morphology of the virus.
Umm. Are you dead? Viruses trend towards more contageous and less severe (which is one factor that makes them more contageous. Dead people dont often transmit)
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:57 pm to cheobode
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The only thing I could stand to eat was Spaghetti-O's of all things.
How funny. When I had Covid in early August/late July, the only thing I ate while sick was Spaghetti-O's.
I lost weight as well, but my appetite loss only lasted 4-5 days, so didn't lose anywhere near 17. That's impressive.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:01 pm to Volvagia
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It’s a one to one comparison between the two.
Actually not exactly. Omicron is much more contagious so people dying from something other than covid are more likely to be falsely labeled as a covid death than during Delta's wave.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:04 pm to meansonny
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Umm. Are you dead? Viruses trend towards more contageous and less severe (which is one factor that makes them more contageous. Dead people dont often transmit)
You are making some massive assumptions. A pathogen in which a human is an incidental host and passed by fecal/oral means is absolutely not going to have the same virulence pattern as a respiratory virus transmitted by respiratory droplets. The decrease in severity you might see in the latter also assumes several things, namely that the distribution of the virus is equal at all times. I honestly don't know where the notion that viruses increase in infectivity while also decreasing in virulence comes from, as it isn't well-supported in the literature. Again, there is no broad pattern you can ascribe to virulence over time among all classes of pathogens. Smallpox retained its virulence for thousands of years while also being fairly stable at the molecular level. Why didn't it 'become more contagious and less severe'? Measles is incredibly contagious and virulent. How could it retain both characteristics?
There's far more evidence for a pattern of cyclical virulence than there is evidence for the notion that the 'progression of all pandemics is that the pathogen becomes more contagious and less severe.'
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:05 pm to STEVED00
I just beat omicron. Felt crappy for a couple days, never even all that bad. That was it
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:06 pm to bbap
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Actually not exactly. Omicron is much more contagious so people dying from something other than covid are more likely to be falsely labeled as a covid death than during Delta's wave.
NY released hospitalization #s For Covid and With Covid. The split was essentially 50/50 so approximately half of NY’s Covid hospitalizations were for non Covid related reasons but happened to test positive upon admission.
I would assume La numbers would be in the same ballpark. Unlike Delta where the vast majority were actually in the hospital for Covid reasons.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:08 pm to crazy4lsu
The bigger deal (thanks to Omicron) is that approximately 85% of La has HAD COVID. That is huge since it is starting to become pretty clear that NI is pretty substantial and robust in particular keeping people safe from serious illness more so than the vaccine.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:10 pm to STEVED00
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Cases down to around 3k a day
Im one of em, well in the coming days.
Its mildly annoying so far.
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