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re: Common core homework for a 2nd grader

Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:27 pm to
Do kids still memorize the times tables? Back when I had to memorize them, I would always “cheat” to double check my work. 6x9 is 54. 6x10 minus 6 is 54.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:30 pm to
I think I solved it.

Write this on your son's homework and see what happens.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Do kids still memorize the times tables?


Yeah. They pretty well have to master them by fourth grade.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:33 pm to
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I think I solved it.

We have a winner.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:34 pm to
what is a quick picture? I'm missing something.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:35 pm to
Louisiana has screwed up Common Core even worse with this new Privacy Law which prevents Universities from seeing if the standards even work or not. Why couldn't they just get all the data but identify the students without their names so we can even see if Common Core is working in Louisiana. I suspect this Republican knew it wasn't working but made sure the results could never be found.
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"Dozens of bills were debated. Only one truly succeeded: a measure by then-Rep. John Schroder, R-Covington, that criminalized sharing student data without parental permission.

Today, Common Core is the everyday curricula. White is a father. Schroder holds a statewide office.

And the Board of Regents is wondering how — with their hands tied by Schroder’s privacy law — their auditors can take a deep enough dive into college admission standards for an audit demanded after LSU administrators unilaterally changed theirs.

Regents wanted to know if the LSU applicants who failed to meet the admissions criteria performed well in college or if they slowed down other students. If some of those admitted by exception had lower grade-point averages because they took much harder courses, like calculus instead of general math. Or if there were extenuating circumstances in high school that account for lower ACT test scores."
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Common core math seems to be teaching the average student the ways that the top 10% of students the ability to figure out math the way the top 10% have already figured out.

Rote memorization is probably better for the majority, as they don’t have the intellectual capability of understanding these self-inherent “shortcuts” that the top 10% understand inherently.



THis. THey're trying to teach everyone to think the way the top 10% think. Guess we'll see if it works or not. I know its damn frustrating to try to help a 2nd grader with their homework and I have no idea what in the frick they're asking for.
Posted by BurningHeart
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:47 pm to
The OP's pic really makes me hate people.

They put 0 thought into making a decent math question.
Posted by Aggieguy2019
Dallas
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:47 pm to
Glad I never had to deal with this crap when I was younger. Honestly who believes this shite actually works?
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11707 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Honestly who believes this shite actually works?

I'm in the camp of everyone learns differently...But the most important part, is that you just work hard at whatever you're doing.

I'm convinced that almost any average person could get a civil engineering degree from LSU if they just actually work their arse off.
Then again, I may be overestimating the average American's intelligence.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:56 pm to
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Draw 24 cubes that are connected

Then draw 24 cubes with 10 of the cubes just floating around all willy nilly


Done.

Now what the frick have I learned?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:01 pm to
frick Obama
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:30 pm to
What a waste
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:40 pm to
This problem should be written more clearly.

It should begin by saying "Use cubes or dots to..."
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:44 pm to
You gotta you tube that shite man
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:46 pm to
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Was this the “answer”? I understand the “grouping in 10’s” concept, but when it’s phrased in a dumb way, it defeats the purpose.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:56 pm to
I actually like that math is being taught this way.

I didn't truly understand math until college. One day I was in a college math class, and it just clicked. Literally in an instant. Like a light bulb went off and I just "got it". Mathematical theories just made sense in my head.

Then I started thinking about how we were taught math growing up. We were taught the steps of what to do, but we weren't told HOW to THINK. We weren't taught the theory as to WHY a formula is set up the way it is. We weren't taught to think mathematically. We were just given formulas to plug in numbers and follow steps. I would make good grades but really had no clue as to why I was doing what I was doing with each math problem. I was just following steps.

After I had my math epiphany in college, I didn't even need formulas I used to have to memorize. I could construct the formula myself on the fly because I understood HOW to think mathematically and knew what needed to be done logically to reach the solution.


And common core is teaching kids HOW to think, as opposed to just having them memorize and regurgitate like mindless zombies things they really don't understand. One thing I'm not sure about is maybe some people just aren't capable of really understanding math. And the only way they can get by is by memorizing and not really knowing what they're doing.

But the thing is... how do you separate those who can really learn math and those who are only capable of memorization?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30380 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:15 pm to


That reminds me of an abacus.

I like Tom Hanks' math teaching methods in Big better. On Youtube
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