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re: Coming to a McMansion near you...the 50 year mortgage

Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Didn’t Warren buffet say something along the lines of that he would’ve been better off just to rent his house always?
I think that was his cousin Jimmy.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:03 pm to
Usury is demonic and our culture should be moving away from it
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:04 pm to
I am almost retired. Where do i sign?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:04 pm to
terrible idea.

better idea: deport the millions of immigrants who’ve flooded our borders the last decade. Kick out the H1Bs as well.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:11 pm to
We bought a modest house in a decent neighborhood, paid it off in less than 15 years because rates were high then, and — unlike most in our position—stayed in it and invested the savings.

When we retire, we’ll sell it, move to another area and buy a new home. If rates are high, we’ll maybe pay cash. But if rates are low, I’ll put it on a million year plan if they’ll let me.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:22 pm to
Now Pulte Homes can sell a lot more cardboard boxes.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:30 pm to
I've been paying on a house since the 90s and the house I'm in currently has nearly 25 years to go.

Thats 55 years total
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12280 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Not buying a house cost you money long term.


I rented a house for a year, I wasn't sure if I wanted to live here long term and the market was sky high with peak interest rates. A year later I bought the house from the owner, he wanted to finance it for reasons, he was 1.5% cheaper than the bank and no PMI, no fees, and about $40k than similar houses were going just a year earlier.

I saved an arse load renting for a while and if I would have wanted to move after a year I would have lost my arse if I bought a house in the neighborhood.

Renting isn't always bad.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Didn’t Warren buffet say something along the lines of that he would’ve been better off just to rent his house always?
I think that was his cousin Jimmy.



Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:25 pm to
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Coming to a McMansion near you...the 50 year mortgage

This is a kick-the-can-down-the-road solution, and we've seen it before in Japan, and it was CRAZY.

In the 80s real estate prices in Tokyo were high, so they started offering 50-year mortgages to make things "more affordable..." if you stretch the loan, the monthly payment looks easier. But it's just extra leverage and we know what happens with leverage...

Prices went insane. At the peak, a single 0.44 square mile parcel in central Tokyo was valued more than all real estate in the entire state of California. The total land value of Japan exceeded that of the entire United States many-fold.

Then the bubble burst, and it was BRUTAL. Prices in Tokyo fell 60 to 80%. Tokyo real estate today is still > 50 percent cheaper than it was in 1989. Many buyers from that era never recovered their equity. Banks spent years holding bad loans, and the broader economy stagnated.

Longer mortgages did not make housing affordable. They made prices higher, slowed down equity accumulation, and left households more exposed when prices fell. The crash was deeper and the recovery was longer because everyone had borrowed too much.

For most people in the US, the house is the retirement plan. At retirement ~75% of the median Americans net worth is their primary residence. The 30 year mortgage aligns with people's lives - it pays down fast enough that they own their home by the time they stop working.

A 50 year mortgage changes that. Equity builds slowly. Leverage stays high. People remain exposed for longer. I like that we are thinking outside the box but this doesn't solve affordability, it hollows out the main wealth-building mechanism for the majority of the population and will have other bad implications IMO

The only solution is to build more! We need supply-side solutions not induced demand, c'mon.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:55 pm to
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At retirement ~75% of the median Americans net worth is their primary residence.


Our house is about 4.4% of net worth near retirement. We’re not rich, so lots of folks are in terrible shape.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Our house is about 4.4% of net worth near retirement. We’re not rich, so lots of folks are in terrible shape.


Let's do the math here. Let's assume you have an older house and it is worth $250k. So you have a net worth of $5.5m and you're "not rich"?

Explain that to me like I'm 5.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6972 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:04 pm to
Already see the anti renting comments, even though you can invest 200k into smart market investments and see a way better return than sinking that 200k as a down payment on a house.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2091 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:10 pm to
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Plus appreciation plus interest write-off.


Standard deduction for s married couple is $30,000+ now most families aren't deducting interest anymore.

Single homeowners may be able to take advantage of tax deduction for mortgage interest.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 11:15 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46499 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:40 pm to
I’d argue that a 15 or 20 year would be more beneficial and Mae housing more affordable
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24002 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 12:42 am to
There's a little part of my brain that whispers, "They know something..." Does the financial sector know something coming down the pike in the next few years that will greatly extend functional lifespans?
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1228 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 3:06 am to
This is a dumb idea. Lower the cost of the house.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5064 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 3:54 am to
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Does the financial sector know something coming down the pike in the next few years that will greatly extend functional lifespans?








Holy shite .. you see a tweet about extending mortgages to 50 years and THIS is your takeaway ?? Jesus Christ .. this has to be a troll post, right ? Im going to give you credit for not being that much of a moron .. it would explain a lot about the mental capacity of the current American voter though, ill give you that .
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17920 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:36 am to
The etymology of the word mortgage is "death note"
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