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re: Coming back into the US and noticing all the fats walking around
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:48 am to Odysseus32
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:48 am to Odysseus32
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I think this is the part of the issue. People always spout off certain diets or try to completely revamp the way they eat in this grand attempt to lose weight. And then they deride "diet culture" because they failed.
But they miss the first step which is admitting that you have an unhealthy relationship with food, and then accepting that the way you eat is killing yourself.
You have to eat. Worry about getting your protein, shedding some pounds, and feeling better. Get checked out by doctor, get your BP down. THEN when you reach a weight where you've adjusted your relationship with food and it doesn't hurt to walk 2 miles a day, start thinking about experimenting with different macro splits.
exactly....everyone wants to go extreme and go on a bodybuilder contest prep diet while being 35% body fat. thent hey fail and blame everything but their poor choices.
nobody needs to be perfect to go from 35% to sub 20%, just a little better
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:50 am to RealityTiger
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You're right. It's way cheaper to load up on fresh beef, chicken, fish, veggies than it is to get fast food for every meal and/or run to the mac and cheese section.
I guarantee I can buy chicken and produce for the week cheaper than buying fast food or shite from frozen/processed sections in the grocery store
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:50 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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All depends on the person though. They could be severely damaged by food and start inching their way back if they don't have the will power to avoid excess. I find that not having it in the house works best for me. If it is in the house, making it hard to get.
I'd rather them find how to make lower calorie "healthy alternatives". Like fat free pudding with dark chocolate chips or vanilla greek yogurt with some blueberries.
I read atomic habits and I believe everyone should read that. If you can develop the habit of only having one oreo a night, all is well. It takes the will though to develop the habit then it's on cruise control. You have to conjure the will but habits are automatic most of the time.
absolutely and honestly i personally do better going extreme. i realize im prolly in the minority though.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:50 am to HeartAttackTiger
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McDonald's has a four for $5.
The value menu here is $3. I can make a better burger cheaper than that.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:53 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You completely dismissing brain chemistry, satiety, and other signals of metabolic health is just as dumb as saying carbs are evil.
In a vaccum, yes it's CICO, but we aren't vaccums and our bodies perform dozens or hundreds of functions simultaneously.
i didnt dimiss any of that at all. i simply said that after calories and protein people should feel the rest of their calories with whatever foods allow them to stay compliant. that will differ from person to person. people like you and I and HFP who lift and are really into this shite will prolly do better being very strict where some fatty secretary who is just starting would prolyl do better allowing herself to be flexible.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:54 am to lsu777
Why the secretary gotta be a she?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Why the secretary gotta be a she?
my bad, guess i shouldnt be projecting.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:56 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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If you can develop the habit of only having one oreo a night, all is well.
The problem is that most people who are "severely damaged by food" have terrible addictive relationships with food. It's like telling an alcoholic they're able to have a single drink occasionally. More temptation and pressure exists with 1 than with 0. The single Oreo doesn't make it easier, it makes it harder.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:57 am to lsu777
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i didnt dimiss any of that at all.
You said all that matters is calories, which is not correct.
Other factors like insulin response can change the number of CICO so those processes, in fact, do matter.
Like I said, it's technically CICO, but by changing the inputs you are changing the total number of calories needed so you need to factor that in.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:58 am to lsu777
All good man. These fitness and health discussions get contentious quickly, was just trying to bring a little levity.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:59 am to weagle99
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high fructose corn syrup
high fructose corn syrup isn't the problem, we have created a lazy society!
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:00 am to jpcajun
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high fructose corn syrup isn't the problem
It is a problem, but it became too easy of a target to demonize. There are other major factors involved.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:01 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You said all that matters is calories, which is not correct.
no i said once calories and protein are equated, nothing else matters.
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Other factors like insulin response can change the number of CICO so those processes, in fact, do matter.
Like I said, it's technically CICO, but by changing the inputs you are changing the total number of calories needed so you need to factor that in.
again, once calories and protein are equated...nothing else really matters or matters so little there is no reason to sit there and worry about them.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:01 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I listened a little to Gaad Sad (sp?) on the JRE and he talked about his weight loss over the last 2 years, at how he decided to forgo the “all or nothing” mindset of American health thought. Basically he said he makes 1,000 choices a day that impact his health. If he is currently making 500 correct ones, he tries to make 600 for a whole, then 700, and so on until he’s making 997.
Just make conscious decisions every day to improve and eventually you will.
Just make conscious decisions every day to improve and eventually you will.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:02 am to ProjectP2294
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Or if everyone still used alarm clocks instead of their cell phones, allowing them to leave their phone in another room at night.
What's so different about using your phone as an alarm clock? Or do you mean checking your phone instead of sleeping or something to that effect? I use an app on my phone to monitor my sleep efficiency but otherwise I don't look at it until I wake up.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:02 am to weagle99
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Genetics
Yes, Americans have genetics found in few places around the world. And it makes them fat.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:03 am to weagle99
I was at a softball tournament this past weekend, d there was a group of 5-6 moms, total weight had to be pushing 1,200, and that’s on the lighter in. One of them had a gallon ziplock full of the yellow Oreos going to town. Later, I seen a gentleman, 350+ eating a squeeze container of his young kids apple sauce. Half my immediate family is obese and it never gets brought up in conversation. It’s ignored these days. It’s disturbing.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:04 am to ElRoos
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What's so different about using your phone as an alarm clock? Or do you mean checking your phone instead of sleeping or something to that effect?
Yeah, people checking their phone because it's there. I'm terrible about it and I know it's messing up my sleep. We don't really watch TV in the bedroom anymore so I start to get pretty tired shortly after laying in bed, which is good.
I'm trying to change little habits here and there to improve my health, getting better sleep is one of them.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:06 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Yes, Americans have genetics found in few places around the world. And it makes them fat.
It’s all the generic mixing that causing us to be so fat. This didn’t happen when interracial marriage was outlawed.
-Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Margaret Sanger probably
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:06 am to jpcajun
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high fructose corn syrup isn't the problem, we have created a lazy society!
I saw a man - the fattest man I've even seen in my life - think 2-3 times the size of Fat Bastard. I kinda wanted to ask him what the hell he was consuming to get THAT fat - I also kinda wanted to take a pic with him. It was unreal how HIUGE this guy was - his gut just about was hanging down to his ankles.
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