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re: College vs Trade School “Debate”
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:06 pm to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:06 pm to kywildcatfanone
Let’s be honest, the easy college major graduates are saturating the market. If your lucky and find a job then your stuck there and are screwed if you get let go. The harder majors produce graduates in high demand and it’s 100% worth it. Most people who the easy degrees could of done what they are doing without the degree and they have coworkers with no college degrees on or above their levels. So if you are going for an easy major, a trade school is more valuable. But with the trade school, you are specializing in one specific thing and stuck in that area
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:12 pm to justaniceguy
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CRT is pretty injected into most history classes. Which is a requirement for any degree.
Can you provide a specific example?
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:30 pm to ChickennBiscuits
I tell any kid to do what interests them.
If more years of academic study sounds like hell, and you've kind of been interested in welding, BE A WELDER !
If there's now way you want to spend your life doing manual labor, but airplanes and how they operate have always fascinated you, BE AN AERONAUTICAL ENGINEER !
etc.
If more years of academic study sounds like hell, and you've kind of been interested in welding, BE A WELDER !
If there's now way you want to spend your life doing manual labor, but airplanes and how they operate have always fascinated you, BE AN AERONAUTICAL ENGINEER !
etc.
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:32 pm to TigerTee
You have assholes on Tigerdroppings that think unless you went to LSU,you have no business being a fan.
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:44 pm to TigerTee
What about people who have both?
Posted on 6/13/22 at 7:11 pm to TigerTee
One problem that I see with choosing between college and trade schools is how you can judge the quality of either. Colleges are pretty well known ranked and rated. There is little argument about which are the best colleges. It's much harder to figure out the quality of trade schools.
Welding is a good example. Say you are a young person who strongly wants to be an expert welder. How do you tell which trade school will give you the best start?
Welding is a good example. Say you are a young person who strongly wants to be an expert welder. How do you tell which trade school will give you the best start?
Posted on 6/13/22 at 7:13 pm to TigerTee
I have an engineering degree, and in hindsight if a trade school resulted in equivalent money and decent work/life balance, I’d have done that.
Posted on 6/13/22 at 7:18 pm to TigerTee
For a 150k you got your degree and no job
150k buys a few trade vans and tools depending on the trade with an immediate need and they are self employed.
You go take that BS degree in marketing advertising over to Ogilvie and let me know how that works out when you blow that AC capacitor on the 4th of July
150k buys a few trade vans and tools depending on the trade with an immediate need and they are self employed.
You go take that BS degree in marketing advertising over to Ogilvie and let me know how that works out when you blow that AC capacitor on the 4th of July
Posted on 6/13/22 at 7:45 pm to Tree_Fall
From experience your best bet on making money welding is get in an apprenticeship. Any decent job is gonna make you test for a job with a certification or not. Apprenticeships pay you to learn and also you can find out from people already in the field where and what jobs are the best.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:37 pm to TigerTee
At this point in time, I’d maybe think about taking up F-H and farming.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:48 pm to TigerTee
There is no debate. Follow the path that is best suited for you. Not everyone can swing a hammer, not everyone can do accounting
Back in the 80s there was an all out push to go to college that was ramped up further in the 90s. At the same time they packaged trades as some kind of second place failure. Colleges got lazy and now provide a less valuable product for most areas of study. Meanwhile trades and production kept pumping out valuable employees.
The left's play is always to remove thinking in place of just doing. A lot of people went to college because they were told to and wasted a lot of time and money.
Back in the 80s there was an all out push to go to college that was ramped up further in the 90s. At the same time they packaged trades as some kind of second place failure. Colleges got lazy and now provide a less valuable product for most areas of study. Meanwhile trades and production kept pumping out valuable employees.
The left's play is always to remove thinking in place of just doing. A lot of people went to college because they were told to and wasted a lot of time and money.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:55 pm to TigerTee
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You always see people who did not go to college shite on college degrees but you rarely see college grads shite on the ones that did not go to college.
you must be new here, cause I've seen plenty of grads crapping on plant "baws" they assumed had no degree.
I especially enjoy the butthurt when the new grad realizes those same folks are out-earning him/her.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:40 am to NIH
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didn’t want to hear queer professors talk about gender studies and CRT.
When did all of this start? Because I feel like this is more an issue of choosing a shite school or program than college in general, but I haven't been on a college campus in 9 years. I never had to take any bullshite courses like that, or even close to that.
I've told my wife as long as we've been together that when it comes to our kids, I don't care if they go to college or not. Success can be found regardless of education level.
And I say that when we have 3 degrees between the two of us. My dad and FIL were both successful without college degrees. The world needs the trades to keep going.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:55 am to TigerTee
As someone who works in higher ed (not sure for how much longer, total crapshow where I'm at), I always try to make sure I remember that just because I'm trying to help students find the best path for them, not me.
College is not for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with that. But, some students seem to be so sure that college (and some incredibly difficult majors) are their only path to success, they are blind to the fact that there are better options for them.
There's nothing wrong with going to college or trade school, everyone is different.
College is not for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with that. But, some students seem to be so sure that college (and some incredibly difficult majors) are their only path to success, they are blind to the fact that there are better options for them.
There's nothing wrong with going to college or trade school, everyone is different.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:58 am to TigerTee
Yep. When I was little going through schooling. All of the teachers preached "college" like a religion. Like it was "their" own personal failure.
Who knew. 15 years later. After finishing college during a recession. Struggling to find work. Finding work. Then getting laid off 2x in 5 years.
Never being able to get back into it either. Im at the age where. Its cheaper to find younger talent.
I really wish I had went to a trade school.
Who knew. 15 years later. After finishing college during a recession. Struggling to find work. Finding work. Then getting laid off 2x in 5 years.
Never being able to get back into it either. Im at the age where. Its cheaper to find younger talent.
I really wish I had went to a trade school.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:59 am to TigerTee
Let me know the next time you hear a electrician or hvac guy bitching about loans and finding a job
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:00 am to TigerTee
Truck drivers are making more than most college grads... and as the shortage of trade workers continues the pay will keep going up.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:01 am to Doublebagger
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Yep. When I was little going through schooling. All of the teachers preached "college" like a religion.
Who knew. 15 years later. After finishing college during a recession. Struggling to find work. Finding work. Then getting laid off 2x in 5 years.
Never being able to get back into it either.
I really wish I had went to a trade school.
I wasn't upset that I went to college. I have four years of amazing memories, but I think I chose the wrong major (what I enjoyed most, versus what was more employable) and then I compounded my mistake by going to grad school for something that I really shouldn't have went to grad school for.
I think my family had my best intentions in mind, but I definitely wished they pushed me towards something more employable in undergrad as a major and that I hadn't listened to them so much when I was considering grad school.
Ultimately, it's on me, though. I'm ultimately the one making these decisions.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:02 am to TigerTee
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but you rarely see college grads shite on the ones that did not go to college.
You haven't been paying attention, particular when Democrats and their talking head allies in the media refer to them as "uneducated" and are somehow unworthy of thinking for themselves.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:04 am to pelicansfan123
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Ultimately, it's on me, though. I'm ultimately the one making these decisions.
Me as well. I could have moved. Just when I was offered a position out of state. I didnt think I could at the time.
Never have that chance again to get back into the industry.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 2:16 pm
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