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re: College admissions Scandal: is the system broken?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:38 am to Rouge
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:38 am to Rouge
In Georgia if you score over 1250 on the SAT and have a GPA over 3.80 then college tuition is free at any State school you can get into.
My daughter had over a 4.0 GPA but scored 1200 on the SAT.
We paid 1,000 for a class which she spent 6 hours a week in the class and then an additional 6 hours of work at home per week.
The class lasted 6 weeks and it greatly improved her score so her tuition is covered.
This is an example of white privilege I keep hearing about.
My daughter had over a 4.0 GPA but scored 1200 on the SAT.
We paid 1,000 for a class which she spent 6 hours a week in the class and then an additional 6 hours of work at home per week.
The class lasted 6 weeks and it greatly improved her score so her tuition is covered.
This is an example of white privilege I keep hearing about.
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:40 am to bird35
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We paid 1,000 for a class which she spent 6 hours a week in the class and then an additional 6 hours of work at home per week.
If you would have spent more money then your daughter could have gotten into a better school with less work and she would love you more.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:42 am to member12
Just make it PMITA prison instead of white collar resort prison and that will make anyone else think twice.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:48 am to Bestbank Tiger
For anyone interested in this case, there is pretty good 7 part series podcast called “gangster capitalism”.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:49 am to CamdenTiger
quote:how would you prove this???? You can’t have admission standards at all if you’ll flout them for money.
They proved in earlier cases that they didn’t take the place of other kids, so harm was not a factor.
Don’t care if you cite a court transcript. A kid who could have succeeded didn’t get in because a wealthy kid illegitimately did.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:54 am to member12
Nothing.
Money will always make things happen.
If you aren’t born into wealth, don’t hate on people that are and have it easier
Money will always make things happen.
If you aren’t born into wealth, don’t hate on people that are and have it easier
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:59 am to member12
ITT: The OT is, once again, too fricking stupid to understand this situation.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:59 am to baldona
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Donating extra money and finding a wrinkle to get in somewhere they otherwise would not have? Give me a break.
I’m sorry but you don’t understand what happened. They didn’t donate money to the school. They paid professional cheaters to help them cheat on entrance exams, lied about accomplishments on applications, and bribed coaches to give them spots/scholarships for sports they didn’t even play.
And on top of all that, they funneled the money to pay for all of the above illegal activity through a sham charity and claimed it as a write off on their taxes.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:59 am to member12
I wonder what high ranking officials in Congress had someone do the tough work for them while in college?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:46 am to member12
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How do you fix what appears to be a disturbing culture of corruption among some of America’s well off/wealthy?
That’s just one head of the hydra.
It’s not just “the wealthy” who are corrupted. The wealthy are no different than the non-wealthy in that regard.
We have a culture that has lost its faith in a greater purpose. We have lost touch with a sense of a grand narrative, or in other words, we have lost our faith in God and/or in ourselves.
This is a result of being in a postmodern period. There is no belief in objective truth. We don’t see ourselves, at least not in sufficient ways, of being in unifying story. Relativism of morality is everywhere you look. In fact, we are bombarded with the message of, “everything goes”, and “you dare not judge”.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:06 am to Jimbeaux
My problem is with the testing company, ETS, having a monopoly on standardized testing. I am not against having a college admission test. What I think we need is healthy competition.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:31 am to Jimbeaux
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We have a culture that has lost its faith in a greater purpose. We have lost touch with a sense of a grand narrative, or in other words, we have lost our faith in God and/or in ourselves.
This is a result of being in a postmodern period. There is no belief in objective truth. We don’t see ourselves, at least not in sufficient ways, of being in unifying story. Relativism of morality is everywhere you look. In fact, we are bombarded with the message of, “everything goes”, and “you dare not judge”.
Jesus man, take a break from the Jordan Peterson YouTube for a bit.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:47 am to Space Cadet
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Jesus man, take a break from the Jordan Peterson YouTube for a bit.
Who’s Jordan Peterson?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:50 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Now the fact the SAT/ACT or whomever is compromised is a bigger deal.
Its already compromised. The SAT/ACT was never meant to be studied or practiced. Now theres a complete industry behind test prep.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:50 am to rd280z
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I wonder what high ranking officials in Congress had someone do the tough work for them while in college?
that's a can of worms that I'm sure a lot of them would rather see not opened
ETA: the Kennedys were a good example of that
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:03 am to Jimbeaux
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Who’s Jordan Peterson?
Self-help writer who preaches the same thing you just spouted off. "Everything is bad because of post-modernist philosophers that nobody read in college who are also marxists and want to make boys wear pink", that kinda nonsense.
He's made a name for himself on the internet spouting empty platitudes over the last couple years, you seem to be parroting a lot of his greatest hits and I thought you might be a fan of his (or "lobster" as they like to call themselves).
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:04 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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People have been paying for admissions since universities were first developed who cares. Now the fact the SAT/ACT or whomever is compromised is a bigger deal.
This
I don’t get why USC just didn’t take a nice donation from the parents and let them in
Or why the parents just didn’t do that
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:05 am to BabyTac
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think it’s blown way out of proportion. Big doners get favors given back all the time since the beginning of time. It’s not hurting anyone.
Donating money isn’t the issue
It’s cheating on the SAT and ACTS and the mail fraud and money laundering that is
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:07 am to msutiger
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If these kids aren't qualified to get into these schools, why aren't they failing out at rapid rates?
Getting in is tougher than actually staying in
Besides how hard could her sociology degree be?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:14 am to bird35
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In Georgia if you score over 1250 on the SAT and have a GPA over 3.80 then college tuition is free at any State school you can get into.
What gets me is that these are rich families with children that are at least of average intelligence....but instead of coaching and very expensive tutoring (which they can afford), they are electing to cheat on the SAT entirely.
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