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re: CNN back to pushing COVID19:"Why a 2nd shutdown over the virus might be worse than the 1st

Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:17 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:17 am to
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Is this why Trump and his Operation Warp Speed for a vaccine is a thing?

Trying to speed up a vaccine in order to quell the Karen hysteria that's tanking an entire global economy? That seems fairly rational. Hell, many tech companies in SF are forbidding their employees to return until a vaccine is available.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:18 am to
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Let's say all of this is fact.
Are you saying I made it up that Johns Hopkins and other health officials didnt say the protests were ok? It is a fact, i dont need you to "just say it"

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Is this why Trump and his Operation Warp Speed for a vaccine is a thing?
He understands, as well as anyone with a brain, this is the only way to get illogical people and political people to go back to normal

We dont even need an effective vaccine, just something safe that is injected and people will mentally feel better.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78060 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:22 am to
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Let's say all of this is fact.
Are you denying that Johns Hopkins employers have put out statements saying that protesting for BLM is fine?

How about the press release that came out recently that said that “protesting for BLM is perfectly fine but we don’t support protesting in all situations, like those protesting stay at home orders”?

Or the nurses and physicians who physically came out to block and disrupt SAH order protests, but gave their blessing to protesting for BLM?

Or how, after all of the BLM protests, now that there is an increase in number of infections, all of the news agencies are “confused” as to where this increase is coming from.

This entire situation has taken on a whole new insanity of politicization and anyone denying that is either an idiot or purposefully being disingenuous.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:25 am to
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Are you denying that Johns Hopkins employers have put out statements saying that protesting for BLM is fine?

How about the press release that came out recently that said that “protesting for BLM is perfectly fine but we don’t support protesting in all situations, like those protesting stay at home orders”?

Or the nurses and physicians who physically came out to block and disrupt SAH order protests, but gave their blessing to protesting for BLM?

Or how, after all of the BLM protests, now that there is an increase in number of infections, all of the news agencies are “confused” as to where this increase is coming from.

This entire situation has taken on a whole new insanity of politicization and anyone denying that is either an idiot or purposefully being disingenuous.

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53625 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:26 am to
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Our covid hospitalizations are far less severe than months ago. Not even comparable really.


Not in Texas, which is where we were speaking of. It’s peaking (hopefully) now.

Every day of the past week has had a higher admission rate than the rest of the outbreak
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11360 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:26 am to
Its a sad day when modern medicine is being politicized. Left will stop at nothing to get what they want and if it means ruining the economy and making a pandemic seem 10x worse than it is, then so be it
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:27 am to
They just can't admit they were wrong. It's pathetic that they keep pushing the bullshite

ETA: Obviously the virus is serious to some, but clearly not to the majority. They just can't walk it back that they anticipated millions dying
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 9:29 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:28 am to
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Every day of the past week has had a higher admission rate than the rest of the outbreak

And? Speaking of reading comprehension, I think you need to read my post again
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:28 am to
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Not in Texas, which is where we were speaking of. It’s peaking (hopefully) now.

Every day of the past week has had a higher admission rate than the rest of the outbreak

Were TX hospitals either overrun or on the verge of being overrun at any point in this epidemic?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78060 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:30 am to
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Its a sad day when modern medicine is being politicized. Left will stop at nothing to get what they want and if it means ruining the economy and making a pandemic seem 10x worse than it is, then so be it
100%

And you have people out there, like Sao, who deny this is happening, as if those doing it are even trying to hide it.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:35 am to
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entire situation has taken on a whole new insanity of politicization and anyone denying that is either an idiot or purposefully being disingenuous.
.

yup 100

which is why I unplugged
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53625 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:36 am to
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Is he though?



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MusclesofBrussels


Oh hey. It’s the main guy who mocked the 100k threshold breach approximation which turned out to be correct with margin to spare. Even cared enough to bring it up in multiple threads after.

LINK
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71862 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:36 am to
Hospitalizations across the board were inevitably going to go up when the country opened back up. More car crashes, more workplace accidents, more people actually going in for chest pain that turns out to be some cardiac issue.

It's hard to tell if these COVID hospitalizations are people that are in the hospital strictly as a result of COVID, or if people going to the hospital for any number of things happen to have COVID, whether symptomatic or not.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53625 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:41 am to
No?

But I didn’t claim they were either. Nor did I claim we are on track to do it now.

Folks, all I’ve posted in this thread are numbers straight from the Texas board of health dashboard. Not projections. Not approximations. Hard numbers. Didn’t comment on their meaning either. Other to say I don’t think it would cause major pressure for another lockdown as long as deaths don’t spike.

See above about if you aren’t in lockstep in bashing down COVID-19, you must be a doomcaster.

Why don’t I go ahead and go on record that I don’t think the present numbers or trends even suggest another lockdown.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 9:46 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53625 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:43 am to
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And? Speaking of reading comprehension, I think you need to read my post again



If you weren’t talking in terms of absolute numbers of people getting admitted, you might have to give context. What? More ICU utilization? Vents? Deaths (a whole different metric than the one you explicitly referred to but okay)?
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:44 am to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:45 am to
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No?

But I didn’t claim they were either. Nor did I claim we are on track to do it now.

Folks, all I’ve posted in this thread are numbers straight from the Texas board of health dashboard. Not projections. Not approximations. Hard numbers. Didn’t comment on their meaning either.

See above about if you aren’t in lockstep in bashing down COVID-19, you must be a doomcaster.

Calm down, dude.

I was only asking for the reason that if the TX hospitals weren't ever in danger of being overrun that they have some buffer room to accommodate more cases in case this wave is as bad as they claim it is.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178364 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:46 am to
It’s just as likely hospitals are getting more patients because people are now going to the hospital for things they put off for two months and more people are out so more accidents are happening.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:48 am to
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It's hard to tell if these COVID hospitalizations are people that are in the hospital strictly as a result of COVID, or if people going to the hospital for any number of things happen to have COVID, whether symptomatic or not.



This right here. When deaths start rising, I'll care.
yet, when all my family starts getting hazard pay again, I'll maybe get worried.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:48 am to
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which is why I unplugged


You got banned for being a moron.
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