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re: CNN back to pushing COVID19:"Why a 2nd shutdown over the virus might be worse than the 1st

Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
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For example: If CNN is wishcasting a shutdown and people say it's a political hoax, shouldn't those same people wonder where 10B is going? Why bother with a vaccine at all? Conversely, why not ask the hard question of WTF spend tax payer dollars on something that's clearly a CNN fake news attempt?



Good luck getting that answer out of them.


You bout to get pelted with a shitload of straw.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:32 am to
I think CNN and their types are pushing whatever gets them the most attention. They probably don’t even believe half the shite they spout. For a long time it was Covid, followed by the protests, and now back to Covid.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:32 am to
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Why bother with a vaccine at all
The simple answer is that the left demands he bother with it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:32 am to
You are asking too much of the politards to be consistent. It will never happen.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:33 am to
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Good luck getting that answer out of them.


You bout to get pelted with a shitload of straw.
For your dumbass as well

Are you retarded? This isnt difficult

1. The virus is real

2. The virus has been politicized, with the democrats now wanting shutdowns for political gains

3. A vaccine helps illogical people get back to normal as well as helps trump claim victory over the virus


None of these are conflicting theories you weirdo
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:34 am to
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You are asking too much of the politards to be consistent. It will never happen.




You gotta wonder if they ever get tired of being completely wrong all the time.


Not ideology wise, but their predictions and expert analyses.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:35 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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You gotta wonder if they ever get tired of being completely wrong all the time.


Not ideology wise, but they're predictions and expert analyses.



quote:

magildachunks
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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heat would kill it.
Heat doesn’t affect the viability of the virus. Direct UV rays do. Plus being in the sun ups vitamin D levels which is a major defense of the body to this virus.

Plus being out and about in the summer leads to more space between people where coughing and sneezing don’t have as high of a potential to spread the crap.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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You are asking too much of the politards to be consistent. It will never happen.



Well, of course.

Picture this: If masks don't work and are worthless, who do you think would be the first person to sound an alarm if a surgeon didn't wash their hands or wear a mask if they were having their appendix removed?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:36 am to
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Well, of course.

Picture this: If masks don't work and are worthless, who do you think would be the first person to sound an alarm if a surgeon didn't wash their hands or wear a mask if they were having their appendix removed?


You retards are so busy patting yourselves on the back that you're ignoring the responses that you claim don't exist.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36640 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:37 am to
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The virus has been politicized, with the democrats now wanting shutdowns for political gains




This isn't fact, it's an inference.

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3. A vaccine helps illogical people get back to normal as well as helps trump claim victory over the virus




And if this is as you say it is, then Trump's base should be pissed off he's spending tax-payer money on something that they claim is not needed.

Because the virus is a hoax.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:39 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:37 am to
I’m not sure why but I would think that most people who are in a really good mood would NOT turn on CNN.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:38 am to
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And if this is as you say it is, then Trump's base should be pissed off he's spending tax-payer money on something that they claim is not needed.

Because the virus is a hoax.


what % of Trump's base do you think believes this?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:38 am to
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If masks don't work and are worthless, who do you think would be the first person to sound an alarm if a surgeon didn't wash their hands or wear a mask if they were having their appendix removed?

You realize we dont know if masks actually have any effect on secondary infections in surgery right? We basically do it "just in case" and to protect from litigation. Before covid existed, this was always known within the medical community. Nice try at your "gotcha" again

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WHEN introduced a century ago, the purpose of the surgical facemask was to provide protection for the patient from surgical wound infections. But is there evidence that face masks prevent wound infections? A recent review concluded that it is not clear whether face masks prevent surgical wound infections,1 and the scientific evidence for this practice is weak and insufficient.1,2 Questioning the efficacy of surgical face masks, an established routine in operating rooms worldwide, is clearly controversial given the tradition of the practice. Recognizing the lack of sound scientific evidence, we have changed facemask routines in several units at the Karolinska University Hospital (see image by Henrik Jörnvall, M.D., Ph.D., Department of Anesthesia, Surgical Sciences and Intensive Care, Karolinska University Hospital Solna, Stockholm, Sweden).


Anesthesia personnel are no longer required to wear disposable face masks in the operating room, a practice approved by our surgical colleagues. Surgeons, their assistants, and scrub nurses are still required to wear masks.

Face masks are worn by all operating room personnel when treating patients susceptible to infections as in neurosurgery, vascular, and orthopedic procedures involving implants and regional anesthesia procedures (e.g. , spinal or epidural). Face masks are also used to protect staff from contamination. All personnel wear face masks when taking care of trauma patients or patients with blood-borne infections.


Our decision to no longer require routine surgical masks for personnel not scrubbed for surgery is a departure from common practice. But the evidence to support this practice does not exist, and studies to establish differences in infection rates with or without face masks will likely be difficult to design and implement given the small potential effect.


LINK

LINK

Links to studies for your reading
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:39 am to
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This isn't fact, it's a thankless inference.
It is absolutely facts. Unless you'd like to show me all the conservative run areas that are insisting on shut downs lasting as long as possible.
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And if this is as you say it is, then Trump's base should be pissed off he's spending tax-payer money on something that they claim is not needed.



We can be while understanding why he has to do it. $10B is nothing compared to the impact of the shutdowns. Math isn't hard.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36640 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:39 am to
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what % of Trump's base do you think believes this?




Not sure.


What percentage do the really loud ones make up?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:39 am to
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Because the virus is a hoax.
Who is saying that? Are you arguing with a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:40 am to
Whoa. I have never worn a mask since this whole thing started and will not.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:40 am to
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And if this is as you say it is, then Trump's base should be pissed off he's spending tax-payer money on something that they claim is not needed.

Because the virus is a hoax.

I support spending taxpayer money on this just for the simple fact that it will help get the economy back to normal by calming down the irrational populace.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:40 am to
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You gotta wonder if they ever get tired of being completely wrong all the time.



Now, I wouldn't go that far at all. The issue is usually consistency. Both sides can't find a way to admit defeat during a debate. Holding on to "my side" is more important than figuring out how to get to "our side". There is now Our anymore.
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