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re: Close up of Andromeda galaxy shows how many stars there really are

Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:57 am to
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:57 am to
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Food for thought for the thinking man or woman.


Food for thought turns into a pile of shite like any other food.
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
3059 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:32 pm to
Recursion
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31273 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:38 pm to
Jim Al-Khalili is the GOAT, definitely prefer him over Sagan or Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2938 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:45 pm to
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There is actually strong arguments that what we call intelligent life is statically impossible to achieve. Everyone agrees bacteria exists in abundance. But making the jump to multi cell organisms is difficult. TL;DR version: we could be the alpha lifeforms of the universe.


Good Post.. I think your argument is supported by what is known as the Fermi Paradox.

fwiw..the link to this site blew my mind in the same way the OP does

Fermi Paradox Explain in plain english
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1220 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Math and statistics have nothing to say about these probabilities.


Please explain...


Others have said it pretty well, but I'll add my explanation. Without knowing the probability of intelligent life, the number of habitable planets is not helpful data.

There is a tendency to think that our existence is proof that existence is standard. But that is a fallacy. We prove that life is possible, nothing more
Posted by jeeperscreepers
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
117 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:18 pm to
i spit coffee all over my screen. I don't even drink coffee.
Posted by rld280z
Richmond, VA
Member since Mar 2018
142 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:21 pm to
Just a pale blue dot as Carl Sagan would say
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5728 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:00 pm to
I love "Wait but Why?" Some of the coolest articles I've ever read are on that website.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5728 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:04 pm to
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There are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on the earth. In fact, scientists estimate there are multiple stars for every grain of sand.
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so for every star in the colossal Milky Way, there’s a whole galaxy out there. All together, that comes out to the typically quoted range of between 10^22 and 10^24 total stars, which means that for every grain of sand on every beach on Earth, there are 10,000 stars out there.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18016 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:08 pm to
That's just incomprehensible. But hey, let me go finish some of these TPS reports, those are important as frick.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:22 pm to
Andromeda is my favorite galaxy. It has upwards of a trillion stars but is not as massive as the Milky Way which has far less stars but more dark matter.

The Hubble's Deep Field View forced a new estimate of the number of galaxies in the observable Universe. The best approximation went from 100 billion to two trillion. That's a big increase.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17200 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:00 pm to
After looking at that, I am 100% convinced that any day now. It may be 10 years from now. Maybe 10,000 years.

But eventually, baby Kal-el, or maybe even baby Kakarot will crash land on Earth, narrowly escaping the destruction of their home planet, growing up to be a mighty hero that saves Earth from complete destruction numerous times.

It will happen, I just want to be alive to witness it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33892 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:32 pm to
On the term "observable universe"

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The word observable in this sense does not refer to the capability of modern technology to detect light or other information from an object, or whether there is anything to be detected. It refers to the physical limit created by the speed of light itself. Because no signals can travel faster than light, any object farther away from us than light could travel in the age of the universe (estimated as of 2015 around 13.799±0.021 billion years[5]) simply cannot be detected, as they have not reached us yet.


Mind blowing.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
2252 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:36 pm to
I feel so lonely.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:51 pm to
Nobody ITT has any idea what it means that there are a lot of stars out there. We literally have no idea of the significance or insignificance of that fact, because in and of itself it’s meaningless.
It says nothing about your life, nothing about the God question, nothing about the extraterrestrial life question.
If you had learned that the Milky Way was the only galaxy, would that make you believe in Jesus? Could you even imagine that having any relevance at all?
Does us being a tiny speck mean you shouldn’t love your neighbor or care for the people in your life?
Does it mean that you or, maybe more importantly, people around you should be able to act in ways they consider evil? Since it’s all so insignificant, who cares?

My point is that I don’t think y’all really believe it’s all that meaningful that the sun is just one of billions of stars.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:12 pm to
There are some pretty interesting articles and books which anyone can follow on the different types of potential multi-verses. See below for a brief summary

Level I: A generic prediction of inflation is an infinite ergodic universe, which contains Hubble volumes realizing all initial conditions -- including an identical copy of you about 10^(10^29)m away.

Level II: In chaotic inflation, other thermalized regions may have different physical constants, dimensionality and particle content.

Level III: In unitary quantum mechanics, other branches of the wavefunction add nothing qualitatively new, which is ironic given that this level has historically been the most controversial.

Level IV: Other mathematical structures give different fundamental equations of physics.

The key question is not whether parallel universes exist (Level I is the uncontroversial cosmological concordance model - basically saying that there exists matter and space beyond our observable universe which obeys the same laws of physics we see) - but how many levels there are.

This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33892 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:27 pm to
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If you had learned that the Milky Way was the only galaxy, would that make you believe in Jesus? Could you even imagine that having any relevance at all? Does us being a tiny speck mean you shouldn’t love your neighbor or care for the people in your life? Does it mean that you or, maybe more importantly, people around you should be able to act in ways they consider evil? Since it’s all so insignificant, who cares


I don't know why anyone needs to believe in a mythical being to know how to behave in a civil manner, but hey that's me. Let's not side track this conversation.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:54 pm to
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I don't know why anyone needs to believe in a mythical being to know how to behave in a civil manner,


I didn’t make that connection in my post. I can see that it seemed like I was doing that, but I wasn’t.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1789 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:57 pm to


What sort of SPF would I need if I moved here for work? I have a standing offer in this god awful land of a trillion suns or Breaux Bridge. Which should I choose?
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 5:07 pm to
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Fermi Paradox Explain in plain english



man I got light headed and had to get some water after reading that.

holy hell.
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