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re: Close up of Andromeda galaxy shows how many stars there really are

Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:05 pm to
Maybe the Mormons are right after all and we are a race of Gods, and all of that space is for us. I’ll admit of all of the Christians (yes, evangelicals, they worship Christ) their explanation includes the best and most interesting use of spacetime.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:23 pm to
And even more to ponder is that a lot of the stars you see in the pic are actually part of a binary (or more) system. The estimate of the percentage of how many are in binary systems has fluctuated throughout the years but needless to say there’s a lot.

Planets have proven to be very common as well and my gut feeling tells me that most stars do have them in some form or fashion orbiting them. So take all of those galaxies which have all of those stars and now imagine all of those planets. Each system certainly doesn’t have a rocky planet (or moon of a planet) within the Goldilocks zone where water can be liquid, but given the sheer number of possibilities out there I think it’s all but impossible life hasn’t evolved elsewhere.
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:27 pm to
It’s not just the vast distances that could prevent lifeforms from finding each other, it’s also time. Two advanced civilizations could be light years from each other but not exist at the same time.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:36 pm to
If you knew humans existed on another planet would you be more or less inclined to believe in a creator?

The irony is that many, maybe most Christians/Jews/Muslims would have a hard time squaring it with their beliefs, and likewise any honest and intelligent Atheist would have a similar problem.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:31 pm to
It'd be more helpful if people stopped saying stars.

They are all Suns.

If more people recognized that each galaxy had trillions of Suns, each with their own planets, and then realized there a trillions of galaxies, the question of if there is life outside of earth would never be asked again, just based on sheer probability. The only question would be where is the closest solar system with life.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:39 pm to
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If you knew humans existed on another planet would you be more or less inclined to believe in a creator?

The irony is that many, maybe most Christians/Jews/Muslims would have a hard time squaring it with their beliefs, and likewise any honest and intelligent Atheist would have a similar problem.



The chance there are humans on other worlds is basically zero (if you want to get into multiple universes that’s a different story but we have no evidence of that and likely never will). The likelihood of other life forms however is high.

Why would an aethiest have a hard time with there being other lifeforms out there though?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

It'd be more helpful if people stopped saying stars.

They are all Suns.

If more people recognized that each galaxy had trillions of Suns, each with their own planets, and then realized there a trillions of galaxies, the question of if there is life outside of earth would never be asked again, just based on sheer probability. The only question would be where is the closest solar system with life.



Our Sun is a star. They are all stars. A sun is just what we call ours (or Sol, either or).
Posted by rpg37
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Which one are we?


Those are stars from a different galaxy. So, to answer your question, count carefully. Star 182,019 on the top right corner is where we live. Count carefully.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:11 pm to
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Our Sun is a star


Obviously.

But most people don't equate our giant bright light with orbiting planets as an equal to those itty bitty lights they see at night.

I'm suggesting if the everyday man routinely had the mindset that each star they see is like our sun (& vice versa), it'd be more helpful in comprehending the universe's mysteries.

Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:16 pm to
Have an upvote
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:31 pm to
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Crazy to think about but there has to be civilizations in galaxies we’ll never know about due to sheer distance and time it takes to get to them


You know as soon as we meet aliens, there’ll be interspecies porno within a week.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Why would an aethiest have a hard time with there being other lifeforms out there though?



I didn't say that. I said humans, because


quote:

The chance there are humans on other worlds is basically zero



Just amusing myself with what a discovery like that would mean for people with rigid belief structures.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 12:06 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:53 pm to
I think finding even single-celled (assuming they even take the form of cellular) life that origininated anywhere other than on Earth would Cause a lot of questioning of people’s beliefs. It doesn’t even need to be on a different solar system, if we were to find that life in some form or fashion existed in the oceans of Europa for instance it would have the same effect.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:41 pm to
No clue why I'm supposed to give a flying phuck about crap like this. Has no impact on our recruiting class next year and no bearing on my life whatsoever.
Posted by JCinBAMA
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Close up of Andromeda galaxy shows how many stars there really are



This is why I just fricking roll my eyes at people who say we're really alone in the universe.

The math and statistical odds do not support that narrative.
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 8:01 pm to
NASA = fake news
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:30 pm to
The Gaia spaceprobe recently released the most detailed map of our galaxy too. Estimated 1.7 billion stars in the Milky Way alone.


Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:46 pm to
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It’s a statistical near certainty that we are not alone
but until they show up, we are alone ....


#MindBlown
Posted by AUsteriskPride
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Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 5:52 am to
Sometimes I wish when you died, you just got to float around endlessly looking at space (with speed of light travel and wormhole maps of course).
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