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re: Close relative is in hospice...(update page 5)

Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80923 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:26 pm to
Losing a loved one is never easy. Prayers for you and your family
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6050 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:21 pm to
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You'll find that you've done much of your grieving already. I've had close family pass. One was sudden and unexpected. Another went through hospice and had time to talk before he lost consciousness. The first one traumatized me for years and is still difficult to think about. The family that was in hospice though, while incredibly sad...I at least got some closure and was able to say all the things that I could think of that I wanted him to hear.

See a therapist if you are struggling. I'm praying for you and your family.


This is so true. My husband died suddenly almost 10 years ago. All our grieving was afterwards. I was shook for over a year.

My mom and our family have already grieved so much loss of my step dad. I found that a lot of grief is the loss of what your life would have been with that person, the plans you had together and the things you thought you'd do. My mom has already grieved so much of that as my dad changed with his dementia. She went from thinking they could do some travel 4-5 years ago, to realizing a few years ago that she could barely leave him at all. Her life had already changed and she had accepted that he was slowly leaving her every single day. Even though she misses him, she's now pretty excited about moving from her Bossier City assisted living to a nice apartment near us in Houston where she can regularly see her 1 year old great grandson.

It's all sad. It's just different.
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3193 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:30 pm to
My condolences on your loss. Lost my mom to dementia 10 years ago and on hospice for 7+ days....brutal time but I remember it like yesterday.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34239 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:05 pm to
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but do we really know?


No - that is why it’s called faith.

I believe that heaven awaits.

You and your family are in my prayers.

Peace be with you.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34789 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:39 pm to
Prayers my friend.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16277 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:02 pm to
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Nurse, he lasted so long without food and water and his breathing was so metronomic and "strong" that I was scared to go to sleep that last night. However, when his breathing changed, I woke up somehow...I guess my brain just registered the difference.

He was in full Cheyne-Stokes cycle as I popped up to hold him. I think there must have been 7-10 of those where any could have been the last given the delay. It felt like at least 10 seconds delay on the penultimate breath.


This is exactly how my father went. I can still picture myself in that room almost 10 1/2 months ago to the day.

Prayers to you.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9815 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:31 pm to
Where do you go from here?

Grieve for a while. However long it takes.

Eventually you’ll feel the gray cloud lifting. And then when you think back you’ll have pleasant memories. A smile and calmness will be there for you.

Glad you had that opportunity to say farewell.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
550 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:03 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33498 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:11 pm to
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This is exactly how my father went. I can still picture myself in that room almost 10 1/2 months ago to the day.

Prayers to you.
Thank you for sharing. It's almost surreal that I was there. I'm sure I will appreciate the fact that I did do it in the coming years, but it will need some unpacking. Too close right now to have perspective.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30191 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:30 pm to
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I want to say the morphine was 500mls/4 hours. Can you give me an idea of what that would do to a healthy/conscious person? Does morphine generate changes in consciousness, or just dull pain?


Hi my e-friend BSTx

so morphine comes in vials like 4 mg/ml and 10mg/ml for a standard IV push, but they also have pain pumps, which are loaded with larger volumes/dosages of the narcotic, and have guards on the pump to only allow for a certain amount of the drug to be given in predetermined intervals.

I'd need to know the mg dose of the morphine in the 500 ml of fluid.

so, while I cannot give you a completely accurate answer, I can say that MD's give an obscene amount of narcotics to hospice patients as they are in the final stages of dying.

To a healthy person, those doses would suppress our respiratory systems so much that we'd stop breathing and unless someone intervened, we'd eventually go into cardiac arrest and die long before ever becoming an addict.

And yes, it alters mental status in addition to pain management.
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