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re: Climate Change Question...not regarding man made or natural cycles...
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:04 pm to sidewalkside
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:04 pm to sidewalkside
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"Extreme weather events" are happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that
Citation needed. What are happening more frequently as compared to when?
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:26 pm to Smeg
In the late 70’s through 1990 the same quacks were claiming earth was freezing over because of us. Weirdos were climbing trees to keep you from cutting them down and sabotaging logging operations. People who used deodorant and aerosol hairspray were gonna cause everyone to freeze to death. Then it was the ozone layer. shite, that wasn’t working for them so they decided that we were going yo drown because of carbon emissions. Same mfers that sold you a vax that is fricking up your kids for a virus that wouldn’t even give them a runny nose. Wake the frick Up!
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:36 pm to Strannix
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didnt keep a simgle person from getting covid, you idiot.
That’s not how vaccines work genius
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:41 pm to Smeg
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Citation needed. What are happening more frequently as compared to when?
I asked this, crickets
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:43 pm to dawgfan24348
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That’s not how vaccines work genius
It was until covid you dumb frick.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:50 pm to sidewalkside
Borrow one of the Pleistocene Geology books written by Richard Foster Flint and read a couple of chapters.
Then see how recently in geologic time the Pleistocene was. And what a short amount of time people have been around taking notes and claiming to know absolutes.
Even read up on "the little ice age" for a 'yesterday' in geologic time.
When you drive anywhere, ask yourself why the shapes of the landscape are and why they are that way and what you might have seen happen one time.
From the Scab Lands in Washington State, to the filling of the Mediterranean Sea, certain arrogant billionaires haven't a clue about just how extraordinary 'things' have been in the past and may be in the future.
Then see how recently in geologic time the Pleistocene was. And what a short amount of time people have been around taking notes and claiming to know absolutes.
Even read up on "the little ice age" for a 'yesterday' in geologic time.
When you drive anywhere, ask yourself why the shapes of the landscape are and why they are that way and what you might have seen happen one time.
From the Scab Lands in Washington State, to the filling of the Mediterranean Sea, certain arrogant billionaires haven't a clue about just how extraordinary 'things' have been in the past and may be in the future.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 6:34 pm to dawgfan24348
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That’s not how vaccines work genius
It was before the CDC changed its definition.
Vaccination (pre-2015): Injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to prevent the disease.
Vaccination (2015 – 2021): The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Vaccination (Sept 2021): The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:00 pm to dawgfan24348
"not how vaccines work"
It used to be expected a vaccine would prevent disease and not kill you.
That changed?
It used to be expected a vaccine would prevent disease and not kill you.
That changed?
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:33 pm to dawgfan24348
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Imagine simping for the oil companies and ignoring the lobbyists they pay
how am i “simping” for oil companies? tell me. i’m just providing you a dose of reality. like them or not (due to your programming) no one and i mean no one is investing as much in solving carbon based emissions than O&G companies. No one is investing in alternative energy solutions more than O&G companies.
but you’re too stupid and brainwashed to accept that fact.
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Yep no corporation has ever used lobbyists to buy off politicians not ever
where did i argue this hasn’t happened in the past? i’ll wait.
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When 97% of scientists agree on something chances are it’s probably real.[/quote
what exactly do 97% of scientists agree on? link?
[quote]because that’s what TV man told you to do
what ‘TV man’ are you assuming I tune into?
bye bye dawgshit345678
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:37 pm to CUSTER
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It used to be expected a vaccine would prevent disease and not kill you.
In 1951 Salk was the beneficiary of $200 000 a year for his research (a massive amount at that time), thanks to the largest public fundraising activity ever held—The March of Dimes. By this time, there were 59 000 cases of polio each year in the United States. Salk undertook research on a scale never seen before. By 1954 his vaccine was ready for a clinical trial that was to include 1.8 million children: 420 000 receiving the vaccine, 200 000 receiving placebo, and 1.2 million receiving nothing.
The vaccine was highly effective and safe. It was licensed the next day thanks to political pressure, and during the next two weeks, five companies distributed about five million doses. Thirteen days after the first doses were administered, there were reports of cases of polio in immunised children. All of these initial cases had received vaccine manufactured by one company—Cutter Laboratories (although vaccine made by Wyeth also caused some cases of polio). In the end, at least 220 000 people were infected with live polio virus in Cutter's vaccine (including 100 000 contacts of immunised children), 70 000 developed muscle weakness, 164 were severely paralysed, and 10 died.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:40 pm to Chicken
90% of folks don’t know there was ice to the top of Half Dome (8800 feet above sea level and 4000 feet approximately above the valley floor) in Yosemite at one time, as well as West Texas being covered by ocean.
As Dwight Yoakam sang, “Baby things change!”
As Dwight Yoakam sang, “Baby things change!”
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:45 pm to sidewalkside
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Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
Yes..the evidence of glacial melt seems pretty clear.
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Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently
Based on what? 150 years of observations?
You’re having a problem with scale. Even if you only look at 100,000 years, which is a drop in the bucket in geological terms, you can’t draw any conclusions about any trends based on 150 years of observations.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:50 pm to dawgfan24348
Here is proof of part of the problem:
The AMA American Medical Association says,
“Everyone else says so so we support it too!” “We don’t really know why but we need to do something”!
This is part of the cite from the NASA article saying there is consensus about it. Nope, that’s some circular logic.
And it says “over a Century of recorded studies shows….”. A Century is NOTHING in the scheme of Earth’s time.
LINK
The AMA American Medical Association says,
“Everyone else says so so we support it too!” “We don’t really know why but we need to do something”!
This is part of the cite from the NASA article saying there is consensus about it. Nope, that’s some circular logic.
And it says “over a Century of recorded studies shows….”. A Century is NOTHING in the scheme of Earth’s time.
LINK
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:50 pm to buck54
I remember that shite from Time and US News, etc. Michael Crichton’s “State of Fear,” did a very good job of laying all this out in a fictional novel.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:51 pm to SquatchDawg
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Based on what? 150 years of observations?
You’re having a problem with scale. Even if you only look at 100,000 years, which is a drop in the bucket in geological terms, you can’t draw any conclusions about any trends based on 150 years of observations.
I'd definitely rather live through global warming than global cooling.
we know humans can survive tough environments, I think the concern is that it would seriously disrupt our current way of life.
There's a theory that our ancestors may have come close to extinction between 900,000 to 800,000 years ago.
During this period, our human ancestors lost 98.7 percent of their population, according to the study published in Science magazine. The authors estimate that the reduced population had an average of 1,280 breeding individuals, and remained this diminished for over 100,000 years.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:11 pm to upgrade
To get away from New York and New Jersey.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:14 pm to sidewalkside
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"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that so let's stop arguing if it's man made or natural.
Not gonna lie- you had us in the first half. But you lost us here. They aren’t happening more frequently they’re just reported way more frequently and the US is a shite ton more populated so it’s a higher likely hood of damage. The number of hurricanes has remained consistent.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:38 pm to LemmyLives
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remember that shite from Time and US News, etc. Michael Crichton’s “State of Fear,” did a very good job of laying all this out in a fictional novel.
I don't understand how anyone can fear climate change haha there's literally nothing any of us can do about it.
Do people sit around worried about our $35 trillion dollar national debt also?
Even if you completely changed your entire life it wouldn't matter. You would have to convince everyone else in the world to behave the same way. Good luck with that shite.
I'll have another steak and stick with my gas guzzler
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 8:39 pm
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