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re: Chevron gets hit with $745M judgement on legacy case

Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29418 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:23 pm to
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LDS is a thing on this board.


They’re a blight on this state and the vermin are allowed to run free.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39563 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:36 pm to
No, he is at the top of the list, all by himself.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
4262 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:47 pm to
What's sad is that Louisiana has laws on the books, most notably a Civil Code prescription article concerning immovable property, which prohibit litigating ancient events. But the judiciary is in on the game too. There won't be any relief up the appellate ladder.

This whole thing is so backwards and embarrassing.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44749 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:08 pm to
We fooked.
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:15 pm to
This is spot on. It was in fact the La SC that decided to change the La Land Act 312 I which does protect businesses from ancient bs lawsuits such as these. They ruled in favor of La Land Act II in 2013, which obviously attracted the bottom feeding lawyers to these bullshite lawsuits. Btw, the actual landowners nor taxpayers get Jack shite out of these.
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
9193 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:34 pm to
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Wonder if Jeff Landry thinks this will help lure/keep O&G in the state? Way to say "open for business".



He's a terrible Governor!
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38036 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:56 pm to
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I can only guess that those mad at the state are the same people playing golf instead of out there fishing - witnessing land disappear year to year.

But yeah y’all go ahead and be mad at the state.


Does your fishing on the weekend make you more noble than the golfers?


Nothing is going to save the coastline until you let sediment flow as it should. The oil companies exacerbated a problem, but they didn’t cause it. No amount of litigation is going to reverse the natural subsidence of the coast or replace what the Mississippi River deposits. If given the chance.

This suit is similar to reparations for slavery. The current defendant had nothing to do with the offenses, but they are having to pay. Will you be selling your fishing boat and offering the proceeds to some slave decedents?
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2478 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:32 pm to
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Aren’t they suing the oil companies for digging canals decades ago that were permitted by the state?


Yep and the damage from the canals is nothing compared to what the levees have done.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2478 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Now we have saltwater intrusion through these canals that has long since destroyed our freshwater ecosystem, leading to exponential loss of coastal land. I can only guess that those mad at the state are the same people playing golf instead of out there fishing - witnessing land disappear year to year. But yeah y’all go ahead and be mad at the state.



Please explain how digging a canal introduced salt water.
The levees created salt water intrusion by cutting off the fresh water supply and containing sediment that would have replenished freshwater marsh.

Subsidence is the reason for the majority of coastal land loss.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42593 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:01 pm to
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Please explain how digging a canal introduced salt water.


If you dig canals through dry land and connect the canal to the GOM you get salt water where there was previously dry land.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20832 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:13 pm to
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Didn’t these contracts over the last 100 years require the oil companies to fill back all the access canals that we let them dig all over our coastal wetlands? The answer is yes, it was in the contracts


Is there proof of this? Was this amended somewhere along the way?

If not then maybe there is some grip.

The dominant issue and cause for the coastal erosion is the ACOE and .the levees.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3598 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:59 pm to
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Is there proof of this? Was this amended somewhere along the way?


Most leases required the leasing oil company to restore the property to the state it was in at the start of the lease.

Back in 2002 or so, LA Supreme Court issued its ruling in Corbello (forget the defendant name, may have been Texaco). Held they are contractually obligated to pay the plaintiff land owner however much it costs to put the land back to the way it was. They had indisputedly destroyed the land, leaving all sorts of toxic waste everywhere. The defendant made all sorts of dumb arguments like: costs exceeded value of land; owner wasn’t going to make the repairs/restoration, it wasn’t practical to restore it, etc

Court said that’s nice but tough shite. They drafted the contract, they’re sophisticated and if they wanted all these limitations, they could have written them into the contract that they the oil company drafted.

They shouldn’t be allowed to rape the land.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54743 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:03 pm to
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looks like the parish would get it. Then they'll probably just toss it in the Gulf of Mexico.



So question… does this 744 million just cover Plaquemines? Or can St Bernard sue for more?
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:06 pm to
It won’t cover shite for anyone. Like mentioned earlier, they will throw 20-30MM worth of rock at it and the rest is for special interest. Nobody wins in these bullshite cases, except attorneys, especially not the tax payers or landowners.
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:16 pm to
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They had indisputedly destroyed the land, leaving all sorts of toxic waste everywhere.

Can you please specify these “toxic chemicals”. I’d love to see sample analysis. Other than salt, typically there is little to no toxicity in drilling or completion. Please link something to what you’re blabbing about. Salt water spills happen all the time, but throwing the word toxic around just shows you really are just parroting something you most likely just googled.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17607 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:22 pm to
MJ Farms settlement amount disclosure
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They shouldn’t be allowed to rape the land.

It’s bullshite to have to pay damages and cost of remediation when the land won’t be remediated. MJ Farms got $60 million. Have they remediated?
Funny how there’s always an Exxon or chevron as defendant. Crock of shite per usual.
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
920 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:28 pm to
Isn’t it interesting how all you hear now is private equity groups or Japanese companies doing the drilling these days in La? Most all the big players are cutting bait for whatever they can get in this state.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11016 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:44 pm to
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can St Bernard sue for more?


They can sue also. Look at cameron parish.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20832 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:50 pm to
I completely agree, there should be a mandate that the judgment must be used to remediat the damage which the suit was brought for.

I also am inclined to say that companies should adhere to the contract they signed.

In the end the lawyers are the real winners.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12640 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:40 am to
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If you dig canals through dry land and connect the canal to the GOM you get salt water where there was previously dry land.


Not sure how much of SELA without levees is really dry land. There were places that were high land, but a majority of SELA has been coastal marsh. Much of the marsh was fresh or brackish in nature. The canals created an avenue of salt water to change the ecosystem into a salt water marsh environment. Also, I can remember watching a video 30 years ago about how some of these oil drilling canals were dug, the material was thrown on the banks of the canal that created an artificial levee that starved the marsh of water quality.

Now in some areas subsidence has played a part in coastal land loss. You take places like Leeville that had orange groves around it. Now much of it is open water. How much is due to oil and gas exploration when early wells pretty shallow or fault lines. Also how many salt domes could have been disturbed, that could have collapsed underground and accelerated subsidence.

In my opinion, the lawsuit should have never been about erosion or coastal land loss, but the lax nature in how these companies plugged and abandoned wells in the coastal marsh. Any monetary gain from the suit should be used to establish an abandoned well fund to clean up and plug wells across the state.
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