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Changing jobs frequently
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:52 am
Is this just the norm these days? Looking at Linkedin and most people are averaging a job every couple of years. I would blame it on low paying jobs but most are management positions.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:54 am to Ole Boy
quote:Most big corporate management jobs don't really pay that much, and job hopping is about the only way to get a substantial raise at these places
I would blame it on low paying jobs but most are management positions.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:54 am to Ole Boy
I saw an interesting quote the other day. It read, "People do not quit jobs, they leave toxic cultures."
I wonder if the workplace culture is not what they expected, or it was a bad experience.
I wonder if the workplace culture is not what they expected, or it was a bad experience.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:55 am to Ole Boy
Corporate loyalty died and so did employee loyalty. It is rare to find companies that are good places to be for years on end.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:55 am to Ole Boy
Yes, it is. Get used to it.
Loyalty that extended from employer to employee went out the window a few decades ago. This is the direct result of that.
Also, in many roles you can get stuck doing the same thing for years and never learning anything new. Who wants to do that?
Loyalty that extended from employer to employee went out the window a few decades ago. This is the direct result of that.
Also, in many roles you can get stuck doing the same thing for years and never learning anything new. Who wants to do that?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:55 am to Ole Boy
Yes it is norm these days. Errrbody been job hopping for more pay. Jump on the wagon.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:55 am to Ole Boy
It’s currently an employee’s market.
This shite can work in the short term but, whenever the worm turns and it is back to being an employer’s market, people like this are likely to be the first people cut if only due to a lack of seniority.
This shite can work in the short term but, whenever the worm turns and it is back to being an employer’s market, people like this are likely to be the first people cut if only due to a lack of seniority.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:55 am to Ole Boy
loyalty is gone. on both sides.
Company/employee loyalty is a thing of the past.
i had 2 jobs in 20 years. but, now I go where ever I get the highest salary.
Company/employee loyalty is a thing of the past.
i had 2 jobs in 20 years. but, now I go where ever I get the highest salary.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:56 am to Ole Boy
Guilty......sue me, frick you.
But seriously if you are not a flight threat you may not get that bump you deserve. Like Chris Rock said about minimum wage, if they could pay you less they would but it's against the law.
But seriously if you are not a flight threat you may not get that bump you deserve. Like Chris Rock said about minimum wage, if they could pay you less they would but it's against the law.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:56 am to bishop
quote:i see this on linkedin all the time and it's just not true
I saw an interesting quote the other day. It read, "People do not quit jobs, they leave toxic cultures."
people leave jobs because they're bored with their job duties and/or unsatisfied with their pay all the time. that's not necessarily a "toxic culture"
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:57 am to bishop
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People do not quit jobs, they leave toxic cultures."
I think this is incorrectly skewed towards companies. Many employees do not live up to what they said they would do. Good management is run off by having to deal with crappy employees all the time.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:58 am to bishop
Sometimes they get lied to about what they are walking into.
Sometimes they get lied to about raises, job duties, etc, once they are there.
At a point, you have to valuate what the employer is offering and whether you can deal with it.
A contractor in my office pays big bucks but also expects their employees to work insane hours during crunch times.
More than one new employee worked there for a month and decided that it wasn’t for them. Main guy I am thinking of moved across the country with his wife to be at this site then got stuck working insane hours while his wife was alone in an apartment in an unfamiliar town.
He eventually cracked and had to leave because neither of them could take it.
Sometimes they get lied to about raises, job duties, etc, once they are there.
At a point, you have to valuate what the employer is offering and whether you can deal with it.
A contractor in my office pays big bucks but also expects their employees to work insane hours during crunch times.
More than one new employee worked there for a month and decided that it wasn’t for them. Main guy I am thinking of moved across the country with his wife to be at this site then got stuck working insane hours while his wife was alone in an apartment in an unfamiliar town.
He eventually cracked and had to leave because neither of them could take it.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:59 am to GreatLakesTiger24
GreatLakesTiger24
I agree with you. There are many factors to someone leaving a job; but I did find this quote interesting. I left a place where I was undervalued as a #2 guy, but I found a job as the lead and it is so much more fulfilling.
I agree with you. There are many factors to someone leaving a job; but I did find this quote interesting. I left a place where I was undervalued as a #2 guy, but I found a job as the lead and it is so much more fulfilling.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:59 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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people leave jobs because they're bored with their job duties and/or unsatisfied with their pay all the time. that's not necessarily a "toxic culture"
I am planning on leaving my job for every reason aside from the culture. I really like my manager and I like my coworkers. They have extremely good benefits.
I'm leaving mainly because we can't afford to live in Boise. But also the guy who trained me has been doing the same role for the past 4 years. Albeit, very comfortably, but I don't want to do that. I'll put my head through a wall if I have to get up and do the exact same task for 4 years.
Also, I can make more money if I leave. It has nothing to do with the manager/culture.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:01 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Most big corporate management jobs don't really pay that much, and job hopping is about the only way to get a substantial raise at these places
The catch to that, is that the big corporations that are willing to give anyone a large pay increase for the same job, is very toxic, and they can only hire people to come work there if they pay 20-30% over average salary. Their turnover is quite large and rather than a culture change in the company, they just throw money at the problem. This is ideal for young professionals because they are chasing money at this point, but once they get older, they realize the value of stability.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:03 am to Ole Boy
The only way to get a substantial raise nowadays is to jump around like that.
If you ever hear a company say “we are like one big family” or “we work hard but play hard too” fricking run. That’s code for “you’ll work long ours, become like family with your coworkers and we will pay you like shite. But we will throw the occasional office happy hour and bring in shitty $5 pizza for lunch once a month!”
If you ever hear a company say “we are like one big family” or “we work hard but play hard too” fricking run. That’s code for “you’ll work long ours, become like family with your coworkers and we will pay you like shite. But we will throw the occasional office happy hour and bring in shitty $5 pizza for lunch once a month!”
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:03 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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unsatisfied with their pay
In fairness, this can arguably also be considered part of the culture, depending on the job. Particularly with employers that try to enforce pay secrecy and use information imbalances to get people to work for less than they would otherwise be willing to pay them.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:05 am to Joshjrn
Yeah I really want a law in place that forces jobs to post the salaries for each employee along with their tenure. That would force companies to stop wasting everyone’s time by trying to negotiate pay.
One of the biggest lies corporate America tells people is that “you can’t discuss each other’s salaries. That’s illegal!” but it’s not. They just don’t want you to know someone who is doing the same job as you with the same tenure is getting paid 15% more for whatever reason
One of the biggest lies corporate America tells people is that “you can’t discuss each other’s salaries. That’s illegal!” but it’s not. They just don’t want you to know someone who is doing the same job as you with the same tenure is getting paid 15% more for whatever reason
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:05 am to teke184
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but also expects their employees to work insane hours during crunch times.
Most jobs will try to squeeze as much time as possible out of its employees. It’s not right, but it’s reality. The employee has to draw a line and be willing to say no.
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