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Change my mind - Freedom is an illusion
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:34 pm
We are all bound by the government, some slightly less than others. Better to just accept it and be pragmatic.
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:34 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
nothing like owning property in this free country having to pay taxes every year for forever on the said value.
eta: we are rewarded with a singular vote republic in a voting corrupt fraudulent system.
eta: we are rewarded with a singular vote republic in a voting corrupt fraudulent system.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Freedom isn't free.
No, there's a hefty fricking fee.
No, there's a hefty fricking fee.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Nah, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose...
Freedom is an illusion
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Freedom is an illusion, but not because of being bound by the government, but because free will doesn't exist.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Freedom is guaranteed by bankrupting your business and wearing a mask.
#WereAllInThisTogether
#WereAllInThisTogether
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to Salmon
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because free will doesn't exist
Bingo.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to Salmon
quote:also true
because free will doesn't exist.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
We are free to believe we are free but when the shite hits the fan we aren't free at all but some people are too stupid to see.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Cant change your mind..but I sure as shite can expand the motherfricker.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:38 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Freedom and liberty are only as safe as the people watching over it, and in America’s case, that would be us. Governments job is to restrict the hell out of it. Our job is to remain vigilant and fight on its side, regardless if it’s our freedom and liberty or another’s. The trouble with us is that we only seem to care about it when it’s our freedom or liberty that’s under attack.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
The answer depends on your definition of freedom.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:39 pm to Mike da Tigah
People are fat and distracted. Revolution / real change happens in times of economic depression, starvation, total healthcare collapse, etc
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:40 pm to Salmon
quote:You've been watching Westworld, haven't you?
Freedom is an illusion, but not because of being bound by the government, but because free will doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:41 pm to Chad504boy
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nothing like owning property in this free country having to pay taxes every year for forever on the said value.
Exactly. Think you own property? Try not paying your rent “taxes”.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:41 pm to Mike da Tigah
Everyone steals tax money from each other in America. That’s why you don’t have freedom.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:41 pm to TexasTiger90
not this season I've been on the Determinism train for awhile
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:43 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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We are all bound by the government, some slightly less than others. Better to just accept it and be pragmatic.
Freedom is an illusion not because we are bound by government, but because we SHOULD feel bound by the responsibility that freedom necessitates, eventhough we have free will to not have that responsibility. Government exists because we are human and never take the responsibility of freedom correctly.
Just because you have the freedom to do something, doesn't mean you should do something. There are a long list of things we should do, or ways we should do things, but we don't. Real Freedom means choosing the right thing, even though you can choose the bad. That's where truth and good align.
But humans, in general, suck at the most important things. We are better at distracting ourselves and taking freedom for granted. We purposefully choose the wrong thing "because freedom," which is the exact opposite of freedom.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:09 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I believe freedom is relative. Compared to China and Somalia, we’re pretty frickin free.
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