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re: Central Pastor church charged, accused of disobeying governor’s order
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:52 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:52 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
The guy you’re replying to us a lawyer and can explain it better than I can. I’m working in that yard and posting during breaks lol
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
Bottom line, you can pray & worship alone. Not essential to gather in a large group.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:53 pm to boosiebadazz
1st amendment. Can the governor deem the press unessential and shut it down during this?
I'm not trying to argue. I just think that everything ought to be protected equally.
I'm not trying to argue. I just think that everything ought to be protected equally.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:53 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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She deemed it a private event and didn’t cancel it until after she had cancelled all public events
‘Tis a non-sequitir. That was weeks ago and the Mayor doesn’t get to decide what is and isn’t public in this context.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:53 pm to gobuxgo5
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When they drive into private property and walk in a private building owned by an individual wouldn’t they need a judge to sign off the right to enter?
The police can come up to your door. If the gathering is large enough and there's obvious signs you have numerous people there (this can even be gleaned from number of cars parked, etc.) then there are exceptions to the requirement of a warrant.
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1st amendment. Can the governor deem the press unessential and shut it down during this?
No. But that's a different animal than free exercise of religion. To extend the analogy a bit, while the governor could stop holding press conferences due to social distancing fears, he couldn't require all press to cease operations. Nor could he stop people from praying in smaller groups/in their home.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:53 pm to lsuhunt555
Good
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You asked if their goods or services outweighed the risk of transmission dude.
And you never answered the question.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:54 pm to boosiebadazz
Thanks 
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:56 pm to Unknown_Poster
I appreciate the articulate responses even though I do not agree with each and every response. I thought I’d be met with O-T sarcasm, so I appreciate the courtesy!
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:56 pm to Indefatigable
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And you never answered the question
I did. I know of boat and tractor manufacturers that are still operating.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:58 pm to gobuxgo5
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I appreciate the articulate responses even though I do not agree with each and every response. I thought I’d be met with O-T sarcasm, so I appreciate the courtesy!
I always give civil answers to civil questions (and jerky answers to jerky questions).
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:58 pm to FtHuntTiger
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Bottom line, you can pray & worship alone. Not essential to gather in a large group.
Assembly is one of the most important facets in many religions.
It isnt essential for me to buy cigarettes but it is for others.
Religious Roy's needs are less important than Smoker Steve's?
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:58 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Assembly is one of the most important facets in many religions.
I agree, but in the good book it says “where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name....”
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It isnt essential for me to buy cigarettes but it is for others.
Religious Roy's needs are less important than Smoker Steve's?
No, my whole point was that there’s an unnecessary redundancy in the system if human interaction should be left to a minimum.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
My point is I see no difference in a nonessential manufacturing plant with 100 employees being in the same building than 100 churchgoers in the same building if they're still observing social distancing guidelines.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:02 pm to Unknown_Poster
So he could mandate papers no longer be printed and allow online/tv/radio only?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:06 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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So he could mandate papers no longer be printed and allow online/tv/radio only?
That's a harder question to answer and perhaps only answerable in theory since, to my knowledge, no one has ever affirmatively tried to shut down any arm of the press in the history of the U.S. The closest stuff you would have are defamation cases where individuals have sued newspapers/media outlets for publishing information. That's a whole subset of law, though.
(You also have Twitter and YouTube banning certain users but since those are private companies they can ban whoever they like for the most part.)
I could see them limiting the number of people allowed inside the printing offices, but probably not shutting down print production. Granted most papers 'publish' on-line but there's an argument to be made that not everyone has internet access.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:07 pm to Codythetiger
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You can't block an accessway. BLM can protest on the side of the street all they want, which I support even if I don't agree with the message.
Devil's Advocate here:
You are basically saying that BLM's rights end as soon as they infringe on someone else's rights.
Well by that logic, This pastor's right to free speech and assembly ends where the community's right to not be subjected to unnecessary health risks begin.
Basically its not really about this one church and this one pastor, it is more about stopping this so the next guy doesn't see that the powers that be aren't enforcing the assembly rules and decides to hold court of his own. Before we know it, every money grabbing preacher would be back open putting the congregation in danger as well as anyone who encounters one of the attendees in public places such as the grocery store.
This post is not intended on making a stance on whether or not the restrictions in place are overblown or not, I simply am pointing out that this is more about enforcing the rules to the masses than anything else.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:09 pm to gobuxgo5
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Our church isn’t public it’s on private property. Does that distinction matter?
Public does not mean "government-owned" here.
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