re: CDC says vaccinated people can transmit covid just as easily

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How is this different than smokers, or fatties, or bad drivers, or.......
All of the above are preventable/avoidable, yet the general population has to deal with increased costs.

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This is much more easily preventable and you can't spread being fat, smoking (much), etc. The only comparable one is bad driving (b/c of how it affects others)

But I can force limits on fast food chains and grocery stores if I was so inclined.

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but you can still spread it just as easily

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Yes, that makes you less likely to spread it

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Huh?

To help clear up what was gathered in the middle part of the thread.

This is part the quote from article in the original post:

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But that was before the CDC divulged new findings this week, showing that vaccinated people may be able to transmit the Delta variant just as well as the unvaccinated.

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In the article part of the quote is a hot link that goes to an article with the language that statement was drawn from:

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"Information on the Delta variant from several states and other countries indicates that, on rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others," Walensky said during a press call on Tuesday. "This new science is worrisome and unfortunately warrants an update to our recommendations."

Walensky said CDC investigations have found that the amount of virus present in vaccinated people infected with Delta is similar to the levels found in unvaccinated people with Delta infections. That's an indication that vaccinated people can easily transmit the virus — even though they're less likely to get sick on the whole.

Coronavirus vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease, no matter the variant.

"The vast majority of transmission, the vast majority of severe disease, hospitalization, and death is almost exclusively happening among unvaccinated people," Walensky said.

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Emphasis mine.

It is easy to read part of the quote and come to the conclusion the first article did and the OP reiterated. When you read the entire text it produces a different conclusion.

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If the new data/argument coming out that vaccinated people (1) have the same viral loads

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This “data” is only coming from a bad study in India with a vaccine that isn’t close to the efficacy as what we have here.

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it's a huge fail if the original arguments that viral loads were much lower in vaccinated people turn out to be wrong.

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The whole point of a vaccine is to lower the viral load because the immune system is eradicating the virus cells almost immediately and at a higher rate. It’s how vaccines work.

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these new regulations on vaccinated people are BS

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We can go a step further and say that what’s happened the last 20 months has been BS.

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these new regulations on vaccinated people are BS

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They're BS regardless. Making vaccinated people wear masks tells me that there is no end to this at all.

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How is this different than smokers, or fatties, or bad drivers, or.......
All of the above are preventable/avoidable, yet the general population has to deal with increased costs.

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How is an infectious disease different than smoking or fat people? Well there isn’t a vaccine for smoking yet and health insurance companies actually do market chantix and smoking cessation to reduce the cost of healthcare.

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This “data” is only coming from a bad study in India with a vaccine that isn’t close to the efficacy as what we have here.

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Even the Washington Post is calling the CDC out on their bullshite with this one. A study from India using different vaccines that hasn't even been peer reviewed. Great job CDC.

Fire them all.