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re: CDC: 80% of Covid-19 hospitalizations were from overweight or obese people...

Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:45 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:45 am to
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Sorry..I meant PBF


Well if you're 18% bodyfat with a BMI just a hair over 25, then you probably work out.

The biggest thing we have to get out of the way in these threads is that the vast majority, I mean, just about everyone in this country does not exercise regularly.

So, in almost every case, that overweight BMI is an accurate label of an unhealthy person.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52815 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:46 am to
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New CDC study finds that nearly 80% of people hospitalized for Covid-19 were overweight or obese



That's not going to stop the O-T Karens from telling you to "just wear ya mask, y'all" and "just get ya government injections y'all" and "if ya just do what your government tells you, they will give you back your freedoms".

I've yet to hear Governor Boucher give any sort of qualifications for ending the Covidian retardation. You?
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:46 am to
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You underestimate how ignorant most people, especially on this site, are.


The fat acceptance thing really is a huge issue.

I'm currently hovering in the 175 range, wear 32s comfortably, and do heavy weight training at least 4 days a week and understand I'm overweight. The fact that these fatties wearing 38-40s and XL+ shirts believe they're not overweight, or at least pretend like they aren't, blows my mind.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14736 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:48 am to
Is there a better metric than BMI that accounts for more than just height and weight?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:49 am to
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weight's lost in the kitchen. People in general way overvalue the gym as a tool for weight loss.


Yes sir. As they say, you can't out run or out train a bad diet. Abs are made in the kitchen. The gym is just a supplement to a healthy diet.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52815 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:49 am to
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5’11 and 186 lbs is a 25.9 BMI, or “overweight.” If this hypothetical dude lost just 7 lbs down to 179, he’d be in the “normal” category.


But that isn't a fat content analysis. You could be incredibly in shape and jacked, and BMI will call you "overweight". Technically, i guess they are correct, but muscle is healthy mass, fat is not. BMI is a poor measure of health, IMO.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:50 am to
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Yes sir. As they say, you can't out run or out train a bad diet. Abs are made in the kitchen. The gym is just a supplement to a healthy diet.


Unless you have DNP
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6816 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:50 am to
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were overweight or obese


Why is it always worded stupidly? Sure you can be overweight and not necessarily obese, but you can't be obese and not overweight. These are not two drastically different categories that need to be stated as such. There is one unifying term that covers them both.... Fat.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:51 am to
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Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:51 am to
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BMI is a poor measure of health, IMO.


BMI is great for the vast majority of Americans. 90%+
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:52 am to
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could have made this assumption and I didn’t waist all the money they did going to school to learn how to come to this conclusion


... clearly.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95557 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:52 am to
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BMI is a poor measure of health, IMO.

It is a great baseline for 99% of this country

I dont think people who are over on BMI, but can see their ABs from working out hard are really worried about being overweight on the BMI chart
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:52 am to
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Is there a better metric than BMI that accounts for more than just height and weight?


Yes, but BMI works just fine for like 97% of people.

Id contribute a good sum to a gofundme for OT dexa scans and you have to post your results.
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3082 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:53 am to
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I'm currently hovering in the 175 range, wear 32s comfortably, and do heavy weight training at least 4 days a week and understand I'm overweight.

Meh, I don't know about that. Maybe I'm just in denial, but I think it's incorrect to say that just because someone is 6' 185lbs they are at a higher risk of health issues than someone that is 6' 170lbs. What if that person with a 25.1 BMI has a resting heart rate of 59, max heart rate of 193, can run a sub 7-minute mile and bench press 1.5x bodyweight?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:54 am to
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muscle is healthy mass, fat is not


This isn't necessarily true. High weights dependent of muscle mass cause health problems.

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BMI is a poor measure of health, IMO


Your opinion is moronic
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:54 am to
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BMI is a poor measure of health, IMO.


BMI is great for the vast majority of Americans. 90%+


Yeah, BMI isn’t as effective at the individual level. It’s a community measurement and is based on averages. If you have a high BMI, though, the likelihood that you need to drop some weight is pretty high. Few people are so muscle bound that they can justify being “overweight” on the BMI index.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:55 am to
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Meh, I don't know about that. Maybe I'm just in denial, but I think it's incorrect to say that just because someone is 6' 185lbs they are at a higher risk of health issues than someone that is 6' 170lbs. What if that person with a 25.1 BMI has a resting heart rate of 59, max heart rate of 193, can run a sub 7-minute mile and bench press 1.5x bodyweight?


Being overweight increases all cause mortality. That's a fact, you can caveat it any way you want, but being overweight is worse than not being overweight.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:56 am to
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What if that person with a 25.1 BMI has a resting heart rate of 59, max heart rate of 193, can run a sub 7-minute mile and bench press 1.5x bodyweight?



They are in the minority of people their height/weight.

I'd also say they need to improve their bench. 275 at 185 is weak.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 10:58 am
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:57 am to
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What if that person with a 25.1 BMI has a resting heart rate of 59, max heart rate of 193, can run a sub 7-minute mile and bench press 1.5x bodyweight?


Yeah, sure. And what if the guy happens to be a professional football player? Listen- you're talking about 1% of the population. You really think the average American is running 6 minute miles and benching 1.5 of their body weight?

Stop it. The average 6' and 185 person is overweight.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20170 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:58 am to
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Definition of obese is kind of dumb these days


BMI Categories:
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5–24.9
Overweight = 25–29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

You probably mean overweight
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