re: CBD craze - Legit or modern day snake oil? - continued

It works for seizures, without question. I also have several patients who swear by it for their arthritis pain, to the point where they have stopped taking their daily ibuprofen/Tylenol that they’ve been on for years.

originally from the south but I’m in Oregon now. CBD is huge here, obviously because we grow it. I have met many many people who have benefited from CBD long before this “muh snake oil” thing started. It’s odd to me many calling it snake oil or either ignorant to its benefits or have never tried it.

While it’s used for pain, anxiety and inflammation I know parents who have used it for their kids severe seizures and stomach issues. A friend gives it to her autistic child instead of pharmaceuticals. My SO takes it for her chronic pain as she is still recovering, and will be for life, from a brain surgery.

There are many products out there. The key is finding the brand that works for you and not the hemp oil people are selling as CBD. CBD needs a small amount of THC to do its job... less than 3% thc is the legal limit on being able to call it CBD.

I realize I am privileged in that I buy organic CBD direct from farmer and make my own oil. Capsules, edibles and pain rubs. Oil to give to my dog who is 8.5 and getting signs of dementia.... trying to find a good treat recipe. It keeps him calm and others who use it for their dog say the same... it helps that it’s infused in coconut oil which is also beneficial for dogs. People have benefited from my capsules for pain, anxiety, lowering blood pressure and relieving the tremors that come with Parkinson’s. I take it to help me relax and my job is physical so I take it before I work. The pain rub works well too, but I find it’s better with the thc oil in it. The marijuana plant is amazing and I’ve seen first hand the benefits besides the high... thc and CBD were meant to work harmoniously together.

It’s my opinion/experience that CBD works better when the thc is still present. Some CBD companies have 0% thc in theirs.... so that tells me they’ve processed it enough to remove the thc or they aren’t being entirely truthful.... the only CBD oils I’ve tried are mine and the one I originally got for my pup. I prefer my own. CBD can be extremely beneficial if you find the right supplier. The problem is there’s so much of it flooding the market. My best advice to people is to buy it from someone who makes it themselves or from a company that can tell you where it came from. I also think sungrown, organic has more healing properties than indoor sprayed. Just in my experience

CBD is legit especially if you combine it with a little heroin, trust me it’ll cure any pain you’ve got

For a super comprehensive review on the current evidence, science behind it, and more than you would ever want to know about this, look here.
As the above mentions, there is currently level 1 evidence to support the use of CBD in seizure disorders, especially in kids.

Here is a meta analysis and systemic review regarding the evidence in seizure disorders.

Here is one of the RCTs.

You seem pretty knowledgeable about quality studies, so you probably know that RCTs and meta-analyses are considered quality evidence.

Also, as one of those articles notes, there is now an FDA approved CBD-based drug for seizures.

Checking back on this thread to see if the usuals that say it is snake oil are all so bright and retarded on the OT...

You are usually cool brah and are kind in your knowledge about herbs and CBD-- but seriously

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I bought some CBD gummies as kind of a flyer at local shop in NYC during the workday and ate about 4 of them. About 40 minutes later, it was like a someone just flipped off the "give a frick" meter. I was completely relaxed, and was quite plainly doing my job, without any stress whatsoever. Compared it to that scene in "office space" where he goes to the hypnotist, hypnotist dies, and he just brushes everything off.

Don't use them a lot, but it's great to get grounded without having to get high, or, reach for alcohol.

The "articles" you cite (all 3) were specifically about CBD oils as an additional treatment (NOT first line) in the treatment of refractory seizure in patients with two very unusual forms of seizure(Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome.) It was not clear if the benefit was directly due to CBD oil or if cbd oil made the main drug more effective. Also, patients on CBD oil had more side effects (not listed what side effects) than patients on placebo.

Despite the claims of a "super comprehensive review", the best evidence is that a few studies suggest a benefit as a add-on medicine to pts with extremely rare form of seizures.

CBD oils contain potentially hundreds of compounds that may be beneficial, or harmful. Also, there is probably tons of variation between different strain/makers of cbd oil. We need time and study to either prove or disprove the usefulness of cbd oil and its components.

This thread really goes to show that's its more snake oil than anything else at this point-its great for sleep, seizures (all seizures?), arthritis (including rheumatoid arthritis), anxiety, stomach issues, autism, pain from brain surgery, dementia, htn, tremors- and it also work for dogs. All this in less than 2 pages.

It's both. Real CBD can do great things. Fake or improperly prepared CBD is garbage. Valuable things are counterfeited.

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Kind of amazing there have been no true studies on it.

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There have been studies on it but the data is messy. Pretty safe to assume it could be helpful with anxiety and it is definitely helpful for seizures/epilepsy based on the data out there - individual differences are always at play here, though.

The federal government has completely fricked the research effort by irresponsibly making it schedule 1.

Snake oil people are dumb and will believe anything.

People used to believe in blood letting, cocaine for tooth pain, meth for insomnia etc.

People still do the ear candling thing and believe it works.