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re: Causeway's $40M safety railings weren't installed correctly
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:34 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:34 pm to MrLSU
Just on FYI on the original Railings.
The entire deck sections (with railings in-place) were built in Mandeville at the now-defunct Mandeville Prestress (think Sunset Pernt for you who know the NS).
They SHOULD have had decent uniformity in the construction as they were doing it in a fairly controlled environment, not out in the middle of Lake Ponchartrain with traffic on the span.
Here's an aerial pic from ~1954-ish of the original span's construction:
The entire deck sections (with railings in-place) were built in Mandeville at the now-defunct Mandeville Prestress (think Sunset Pernt for you who know the NS).
They SHOULD have had decent uniformity in the construction as they were doing it in a fairly controlled environment, not out in the middle of Lake Ponchartrain with traffic on the span.
Here's an aerial pic from ~1954-ish of the original span's construction:
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:37 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Huh. I thought Lemoine was a sub on this for Conlan, out of Georgia
They are. TLC can not do this project. Amazon only allows GC's who done similar size projects to bid on it. There is not a GC in Baton Rouge or New Orleans can handle this.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:39 pm to BuddyRoeaux
i can tell you first hand the owner of JB James and his "VP/operation manager" are both the definition of assholes/crooks/short cut takers/etc. I am shocked he is still in business.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:42 pm to bayou choupique
They used epoxy? And that is supposed to stop a car moving 60mph?
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:50 pm to soccerfüt
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They SHOULD have had decent uniformity in the construction as they were doing it in a fairly controlled environment, not out in the middle of Lake Ponchartrain with traffic on the span.
It might have been uniform....ly wrong.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:59 pm to MrLSU
Can this state do anything right?
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:00 pm to Macintosh504
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Can this state do anything right?
It hurricanes like no other state.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:12 pm to Macintosh504
quote:Sometimes inadvertently whilst attempting a shortcut or hi-jinxery.
Can this state do anything right?
So, YES.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:16 pm to jimbeam
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So the “as-builts” were more like an “as-designed”
Every single time. It's my least favorite thing about retro work and the reason the Union project took 5 years.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:18 pm to Geauxld Finger
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They could have saved all that toll money over the years and build a new fricking bridge at this point.
Here's a cost savings, cut the "Causeway Police". Talk about unnecessary. Let LSP patrol it and have a fleet of Roadside Assistance trucks ready to go.
They are not about 'saving money'. The Causeway Commission's whole game is to keep operating costs high so they can justify the perpetual, overpriced tolls and the higher ups keep their jobs. It's all a charade. Next time you're about to get on the bridge on the Mandeville side, just look at that whole complex that they have next to it, and tell me they really need that many people running a straight-shot bridge. That doesn't even include their off-site maintenance facility. I don't care if it's 24 miles long or not
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:20 pm to soccerfüt
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Sometimes inadvertently whilst attempting a shortcut or hi-jinxery.
So, YES.
In fairness, they sometimes do the right thing 50-60 years late when it comes to infrastructure.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:22 pm to Aubie Spr96
Those of us who had enough just leave the state. Imagine state and local governance run by a PTA and mafia. That about sums it up for Louisiana.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:26 pm to BuddyRoeaux
In fairness, they did epoxy those cracks together which I'm almost positive will keep the bridge from crumbling over time.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:31 pm to DiamondDog
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Louisiana Highway Construction is a fiasco unto itself.
But Joe Biden is about to fix all that!
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:35 pm to 3nOut
if JB James Construction is the same group that was James Construction and currently operates as PSC (Primoris Service Corp) then yes it's the lowest bidder and that whole company can GFT.
same family, different company
same family, different company
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:38 pm to goofball
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Actually no.
actually yes, project was a public bid thru the Causeway commission
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:40 pm to Roberteaux
Why are they still paying toll attendants to man the booths? A license plate system would be better, and that's how they collected during the quarantine shutdown.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:49 pm to MrLSU
Old news...been watching them fix it for like 6 month...both sides of the southbound span.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 4:52 pm to jimbeam
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So the “as-builts” were more like an “as-designed”
Posted on 5/5/21 at 5:56 pm to notiger1997
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Pretty sure it's supposed to be lowest "technically" acceptable bid.
It's absurd how many of the players in the game are allowed to screw up and continue to be given awards anyway.
This is the part that really breaks the system, from what I’ve seen/heard.
I get the idea of going with the lowest technically qualified bid in principle. We are talking about taxpayer dollars, and the idea is to keep brother-in-law deals from fleecing the taxpayers.
But what happens in reality is that the contractors that frick up constantly still get brother-in-law deals - it’s just a different kind of deal. Instead of getting the government to pay more for the contract, they bid the job cheap then cut corners to increase their margin. If the state would pursue every liquidated damages claim available, refuse to issue change orders for rework/stupidity, and black ball contractors who do a shitty job - the system might actually work.
But they don’t. All of these contractors have friends in the upper levels of DOTD that will squash any attempt to force them to actually complete projects on time, in a technically acceptable manner, without change orders. They’ll frame it internally as if they can’t play hardball because nobody will want to work with the state. But the reality is that nobody wants to work with the state because the handful of contractors who have friends in high places are able to low-bid jobs with impunity. Which makes it impossible for anyone else to win jobs without underbidding themselves.
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