re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse

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But we also have to consider that anything uttered in a confessional might not be true.

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So...by this thinking one would lie, which is a sin, and then have to get back in line to come in again and confess the lie?

As a fellow Catholic I agree with your sentiment, but I do not suspect lies to be commonplace in the Sacrament of Jesus' Mercy.

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As a fellow Catholic I agree with your sentiment, but I do not suspect lies to be commonplace in the Sacrament of Jesus' Mercy.

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You, sir, have more faith in the common man to do the right thing, without question. I take a more realistic approach that someone - they might not even be Catholic - to harm another, anonymously. I applaud your faith in people in that regard. I need to work on that, myself.

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Not sure why this was downvoted to oblivion but it’s true.

The Catholic Church has an immense amount of recompense to do over the sex abuse scandal and subsequent coverups.

The Church choosing to dig in on protecting the confessions of child abusers doesn’t advance that agenda at all.

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This is coming about because the Washington government enacted a law requiring clergy to disclose abuse if it's revealed in confession. The Church will not allow ANYTHING to be disclosed if it was revealed in confession, not just child abuse. WA is forcing their hand on this, it's not that the Church is specifically choosing to defend abusers.

Would we be ok if the government required priests turn in a list of people who cheat on their taxes? Is it ok if California gets rid of attorney-client privilege and makes your lawyer tell the court if you committed the crime or not?

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Not sure why this was downvoted to oblivion but it’s true.

The Catholic Church has an immense amount of recompense to do over the sex abuse scandal and subsequent coverups.

The Church choosing to dig in on protecting the confessions of child abusers doesn’t advance that agenda at all.

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The protection of child predators is largely a myth. Most of the abuse occurred in the 60s and 70s when the prevailing psychology was that these predators could be treated, and could safely be returned to their work. Many of the families of the abused did not want the abuse to be publicized.

While there was a misguided desire to avoid scandal, there was not a widespread coverup. THe Church was trusting the science,

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The Church choosing to dig in on protecting the confessions of child abusers doesn’t advance that agenda at all.

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or just look at it for what it really is and the government is interfering in religious matters which is against the Constitution

This sets a terrible precedent - how can a court ever prove what was said in a confessional? This is a path to get good priests put in jail, too. In retrospect, if a child abuser did happen to go to confession (which I doubt) - is the priest now an accomplice?

Most good priests will counsel you and help you find rehabilitation programs, but that’s on the person to follow through. It’s not the priest’s responsibility. There are other ways to get child abuse reported without breaking the seal of confession.

I will ask this question again, if we are demanding that priests be a mandated reporter for the safety of children, why are lawyers exempt?

Why shouldn’t they be forced to divulge information that they are told?

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Who is yall?

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Yall is all Branch off, Secondary, Tier 2 Christian Churches.

You know, the ones that basically follow all Catholic doctrine outside the principals that are just a little bit too much work for most people.

I find it that everyone loves them a lazy religion. Less kneeling and standing up plus you dont have to do good works.

Who wouldnt want to go to that church? I agree with yall in theory, yalls churches sound more fun but I am not here for fun. I am here for the Lord.

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Scruffy is required

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just messin' witchu baw, how ya dooin' doc?

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Do they also take an oath not to diddle little kids?

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That would fall under the vow of chastity.

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Praying on a rug 12 times a day is less absurd than confession.

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Arent you a Baptist that went to Parkview? You sure you want to talk about things that don’t make any sense with religion?