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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse

Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
Christianity is a religion.

Christians are defined as those that believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that He died for our sins.

Catholics are one of many denominations of the Christian faith.

Certain denominations have interpreted the Word of God differently from other denominations, and practice traditions that other denominations do not.

Posted by CapitalTiger
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
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So it doesn't matter if you confess to diddling 100 kids as long as you don't say you are going to do it again?


In the context of what makes a counselor/psychologist a mandated reporter in Washington, no.
Posted by travelgamer
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Christianity is a religion.

Christians are defined as those that believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that He died for our sins.

Catholics are one of many denominations of the Christian faith.

Certain denominations have interpreted the Word of God differently from other denominations, and practice traditions that other denominations do not.


I agree with this, but the thread title specifies catholic. I was raised in the Church of Christ who didn't allow dancing (insert Kevin Bacon) and did not agree with their views so I stopped following that faith and didn't defend it.

Muslims are a great example, not all people who follow the muslin faith are terrorist. People who skew the word to their will are not faithful, just bending it to explain or hide what they do. That's what the catholic church is doing.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by travelgamer
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:33 pm to
Catholic priests can drink, why not let them have sex with women?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
Well, Muslims certainly are not Christians, obviously, and are more akin to a cult.

That said, while the law applies to all clergy.
It just happens that the Catholic Chrch defines confession as only to priest, under a curtain of secrecy.

All Christians are encouraged to confess ther sins, that is Biblical, as I said earlier in the thread.

As it stands now, I believe the law is temporarily blocked by a federal judge.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Harald Ekernson
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:07 pm to
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BigNastyTiger417 I admit that Jesus is a form of God. People pray to Jesus Christ as well as God.

I am taking this to mean you are sticking to your guns that Jesus isn’t a mediator though you’ve been shown 4 biblical verses that says Jesus is a mediator.

If you can’t admit your simple mistake, I don’t know how the hell you will repent of your sins to be able to enter God’s kingdom.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Well, Muslims certainly are not Christians, obviously, and are more akin to a cult.


More akin to a cult than Christians?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:24 pm to
Cmon man, polish that hook a little better.
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:40 pm to
When someone confesses their sin to a priest, they are asking the priest to ask god for forgiveness. Everyone sins, but confessing sinful acts is seen as someone truly being remorseful. If they are truly remorseful they will be forgiven if they confess and the priest ask god to forgive them.

The church's views doesn't line up with the law. If priest started informing law enforcement then people would stop confessing sins that also break the law.

I am not saying I agree or disagree with anything, I am just saying that confession is a big part of the Catholic church. If a priest thinks someone who confessed to them should be punished for their crimes, I am sure there are ways to get information to law enforcement that would point them into the direction they need to be going in without them saying "hey ______ told me they did _____", but as for as everything goes, the Catholic church is its own entity that doesn't necessarily run parallel to the law.

This really shouldn't be that big of a surprise.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:47 pm to
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When someone confesses their sin to a priest, they are asking the priest to ask god for forgiveness.


Compare and contrast:

The belief that the Priest has access to God that the sinner does not

And

The belief that protecting the sinner is more important than protecting the victim who is a child

Sinners and children in this religion seem to be 2nd class citizens at best!
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:57 pm to
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We are attacking and condemning Catholics and Catholicism in this thread. Not lawyers.

What about psychiatrists? Or your spouse?

What about other crimes not related to child molestation?

Or we just singling out one crime and one group of people this applies to?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 3:03 pm to
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The belief that protecting the sinner is more important than protecting the victim who is a child



Why stop there? Is attorney-client privilege more important than protecting children? Scrap it. Lawyers should be required to immediately report to a judge if their client admits to anything like that

4th and 5th amendments? Protects pedos. If someone is suspected of having child porn they should have to hand over their belongings to police for a complete search, no warrant required. If you're questioned about it and refuse to respond it should be the same as pleading guilty, like refusing a breathalyzer.

While we're at it, Washington should expand this confession law to all crimes. You think reconciliation is more important than solving murders, rapes, theft? Force the priests onto the stand and make them decide between excommunication or helping victims
Posted by CapitalTiger
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 3:44 pm to
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The belief that the Priest has access to God that the sinner does not


Well that isn’t the belief of Catholicism.
Posted by TD422
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:05 pm to
So rational is abandoning my principles and relinquishing the Church to those who want to do harm to children? Tell me you quit when things get tough without telling me you quit when things get tough.

I’ll back change. Thanks.
Posted by YNWA
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:11 am to
Don't worry. Pedo Trump is protecting the Pedo Priests.

LINK

Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:33 am to
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Cmon man, polish that hook a little better.


Just wondering how you’re distinguishing between the two groups.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:35 am to
…. Ok …..
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:42 am to
Can't help you...

The poli board is where ye seek...

Posted by travelgamer
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:16 am to
How can catholic priest be trusted when they take confessions on the same acts they are doing? The church is protecting both the priests and confessors who abuse children to keep the coffers full.
Posted by travelgamer
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:19 am to
For the catholics, if a priest diddled your kid and confessed to a cardinal, are you ok with it?

If someone raped your child and confessed it to a priest, are you ok with them going free?
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 8:24 am
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