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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse

Posted on 7/19/25 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
473 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 8:59 pm to
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The silence is deafening.


I’ll play your game. Let’s say this law stands and Catholic Priests begin providing the state with child abuse information heard from the confessional.

Is that where the line is drawn? Or does the state start to compel Priests to testify information related to all crimes? What about civil matters?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:02 pm to
there are 17 Catholics in the entire state of Washington. this is a thing that really isn't a thing.

Posted by LSUGrad2024
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2023
639 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:29 pm to
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These people are the scum of the earth


Frick you, I don't see you complaining about attorney-client privilege. In fact, not a single person would complain about it. But you hate Catholics, so this helps your worldview.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
622 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:17 pm to
Yes but like I said, not all Catholics.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
622 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:21 pm to
And how is my premise false?

If the church excommunicates priests who expose child sexual abuse, how is that not taking action to protect the abusers?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:36 pm to
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But that's just my opinion as a Christian. I'll abide by what the courts say.


If you do the latter in all cases you’re not the former. It was the “courts” that sentenced Jesus to die. It was the courts who said a man can be another’s property.

As for biblical and confession it comes straight from Jesus’ own mouth.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:38 pm to
Clearly you aren’t familiar with 1 Opinions 2:3 that states all sins are absolved by the priest and aren’t subject to man’s laws
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
384 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:03 pm to
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Confession is so absurd. You don’t need a middle man for forgiveness.

Yet you need a middle man - a mediator - between man and God, and he had to die to atone for your sins.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21241 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:20 am to
How would anyone know? If this is all in the secrecy of the confessional nobody knows what was said. How can you charge a priest with a crime you didn’t know he committed? Unenforceable law.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:22 am to
Let’s see religion versus state law. Good luck with that at the Supremes Huskies
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2810 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:25 am to
Pedo's gonna pedo. F the catholic church.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 12:26 am
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5649 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:39 am to
Jesus is not a mediator. He is God in human form.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71150 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:45 am to
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there are 17 Catholics in the entire state of Washington. this is a thing that really isn't a thing.



The archdiocese of Seattle oversees approximately one million Catholics. The state of Washington itself has a population of nearly 600,000 Catholics.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71150 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:46 am to
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Jesus is not a mediator. He is God in human form.



“For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” - 1 Timothy 2:5
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63689 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:49 am to
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Jesus is not a mediator.


John 14:6 seems to say otherwise.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23018 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:09 am to
quote:

quote:

Jesus is not a mediator. He is God in human form.



“For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” - 1 Timothy 2:5


quote:

John 14:6 seems to say otherwise.


Bad morning for the "Catholics don't read their bibles" crew, huh?
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15363 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:15 am to
This must be the anti-catholic thread.

Hopefully by now someone has pointed out the entire article is flawed. The premise of the law was to the force the priest to break the seal of confession for a particular crime, sex abuse against children. (Not that priests would do this outside the confessional.) Might sound good on the surface, but why not include murder? Drugs? Infidelity? Theft? Where would it stop? And at that point who would actually go and confess their sins that were crimes?

That last line is the real point. The devil would have his choice of souls if they never received forgiveness through the sacrament of reconciliation. And if you don’t see the enemy behind acts like this you might be missing the spiritual battle that exists within this world.

If you’re a catholic and reading this, it should be a good reminder to visit the confessional more often.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 8:16 am
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1933 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:17 am to
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These people are the scum of the earth

They take holy vows to NEVER reveal ANY confessions as part of the sacrament of what we call reconciliation (confession). It is taken quite seriously any is an automatic excommunication if done.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1933 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:20 am to
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I think it was overruled before the priest had to make the choice though.

Yes, he made the right choice and refused to reveal any information he obtained as part of the sacrament. Right choice.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31674 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:26 am to
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Which people?

Priests have never been able to reveal what they're told in the confessional

Have shrinks always been required to report certain things patients their may say?
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