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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:52 am to N2cars
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:52 am to N2cars
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Does the law specifically state Catholic priests, or is it written in such a way that one would surmise that is the case?
Yes. From the bill.
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Except for members of the clergy, no one shall be required to report under this section when he or she obtains the information solely as a result of a privileged communication as provided in RCW 5.60.060.
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:32 am to CapitalTiger
So all members of the clergy.
Priests, pastors, rabbis, etc.
Priests, pastors, rabbis, etc.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:49 am to N2cars
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So all members of the clergy.
Priests, pastors, rabbis, etc.
You said…
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is it written in such a way that one would surmise that is the case?
I’ll let you guess which religious group has privileged communication as a sacramental tenet.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:53 am to CapitalTiger
No, I am aware.
But I am I not reading it correctly?
All members of clergy are required, not just Catholic priests.
But I am I not reading it correctly?
All members of clergy are required, not just Catholic priests.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:55 am to N2cars
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We all have a right to privacy, but underage victims report all the time to police and their names remain private.
And adults report situations where the victim is a minor, and names aren't published.
That's not what I meant
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:00 pm to SUB
Yes, but that should be disclosed to authorities 100% of the time. frick confidentiality in that instance. If they do it once they’ll do it again in almost every circumstance.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:00 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Well they took an oath so that would make sense.
Jeez, God doesn't control anything, that is the point. We are here and living by our own consciousness. frick an oath to a power mongering church if they are arse hurt about protecting kids.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:05 pm to GRTiger
I mean he’s really calling people who would choose to protect pedophiles the scum of the earth, not all “Catholics”.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:08 pm to N2cars
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But I am I not reading it correctly?
All members of clergy are required, not just Catholic priests.
The bill is a mandated reporter bill. It lists 21 professions that are mandated reporters. Everything from coroners, to pharmacists, to day care workers.
20 professions are exempt from being mandated reporters when the abuse is uncovered during privileged communication.
Clergy is the one where they must still report if uncovered during privileged communication. There is only one denomination where a sacramental tenet of the faith has privileged communication.
Keep in mind, this doesn’t absolve Priests from reporting abuse if uncovered outside of the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:09 pm to scottyd
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I mean he’s really calling people who would choose to protect pedophiles the scum of the earth, not all “Catholics”.
Ignoring your false premise, he was talking about the Catholic Church itself. The ones doing the excommunicating.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:10 pm to Sterling Archer
If I know about child abuse, the last person I’m going to tell is a fricking priest, I’m going straight to the cops.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:10 pm to drizztiger
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Luckily they have earned the benefit of the doubt in regards to child abusers.
The worst thing the Church ever did was allowing homosexuals into the priesthood. They should be screening for that during discernment.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:22 pm to AUbagman
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frick an oath to a power mongering church if they are arse hurt about protecting kids.
That’s not what this is about.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:28 pm to CapitalTiger
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Clergy is the one where they must still report if uncovered during privileged communication. There is only one faith where a sacramental tenet of the faith has privileged communication.
Yes, Im very clear on that. It has been repeated numerous times in this thread, and is well-known by anyone with a layman's knowledge of religion.
Although, I would say that the Catholic Church is one of many denominations of the Christian faith.
It will be interesting to see if this ever gets tested in actual practice.
Thanks for your replies.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:36 pm to N2cars
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Although, I would say that the Catholic Church is one of many denominations of the Christian faith.
Should have used denomination instead of faith in this instance.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:53 pm to TD422
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I'm a practicing Catholic. Far and away the biggest issue I have with the Church is its protection of child abusers
That in and of itself would make most rational people quit giving money to an organization that produces child molestors and then protects them.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:47 pm to BamaCoaster
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That in and of itself would make most rational people quit giving money to an organization that produces child molestors and then protects them.
If you’d like to talk about how the Church handled the atrocity of the abuse scandals between the 60’s and early 2000’s then do that in another thread.
This is about a state actor having the ability to use a universally accepted offense to single out a particular religious group for whatever reason the state might deem necessary.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:50 pm to CapitalTiger
Correct me if I’m mistaken as I’m not a Catholic, but how would a priest report it? They’re confidential right? Behinds a screen in the confessional booth? You don’t introduce yourself in the confessional, right?
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:52 pm to GentleJackJones
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Correct me if I’m mistaken as I’m not a Catholic, but how would a priest report it? They’re confidential right? Behinds a screen in the confessional booth? You don’t introduce yourself in the confessional, right?
You can confess face to face if you want, but yes, the priest often doesn't know who's on the other side of the screen.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:54 pm to BamaCoaster
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That in and of itself would make most rational people quit giving money to an organization that produces child molestors and then protects them.
That's what happens when gay men are ordained as priests.
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