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Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:38 am to dirty bastard
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I personally know two that have and they were in their early 40s.
Or, realize that 10 years ago you didn't know that many people in their 40s and/or the health condition. 20 years ago you knew even fewer....
Unless there is data available to show a drastic increase in cardiac deaths at the specific age range; there is too many variables to automatically tie them to the vaccine. Especially when you consider the fact that as a nation, we are getting fatter and unhealthier.
And before you start with the they were all typical OTers 6'+, 190 #s, <10% body fat, worked out regularly... Again, there are more variables to health than physical appearance; especially with the shite people eat/drink these days
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:41 am to Levin13
quote:Because they know the data hurts their deranged arguments that YOU WILL DIE SOON IF YOU GOT THE VAX.
How is asking for support / data being down voted?
As has been pointed out with studies linked in this thread, cardiac deaths were on the rise before the vaccine was rolled out. Notice how the OP won't talk about that, he just keeps ranting in that same very deranged manner.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:43 am to dirty bastard
quote:this is el gaucho tier. Nice
I have a golfing buddy who owns a couple of funeral homes and he said they are having a hard time draining the blood from bodies because of the blood clots.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:43 am to TigerKtBby
quote:Medical field worker, but you didn't notice that the rise in cardiac deaths was happening before the vax? Not very astute of you.
I believe it. I have no official data to back this up. However, working in the medical field, I have witnessed this for myself.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:48 am to TigerKtBby
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I have no good reason to believe it but I believe it anyway.
FIFY
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:50 am to dirty bastard
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Now here you are babbling some BS. No, I am not confusing nothing. I see perfectly healthy people dying. WTF are you actually trying to say? Dam
that you have no clue what is actually causing them to kill over and your are using cooralation to infer causation.
i know big words for you.
in other words you have no frickign clue what is actually causing this just like I dont. I may agree with your theory but its just that....a theory.
stop speaking in facts like you are somehow smarter than everyone else....because you certainly arent.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:52 am to GetCocky11
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I'm going to go report to VAERS that the vaccine cause a monkey to jump out of my arse.
It's pretty funny how nobody knew what VAERS was until certain folks decided they could weaponize it by just submitting a report for any and everything. Somebody's 90-year-old grandma got vaccinated and six months later she dies. Head straight to VAERS to make that report! I know of at least a couple of families who did this exact thing hoping to set themselves up for money later on.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:52 am to dirty bastard
Just get your jab and buy your Chinese made Ukraine flag you white supremacist transphobe.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:54 am to S1C EM
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Somebody's 90-year-old grandma got covid and six months later she dies. And is labeled as a covid death.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:59 am to Korkstand
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"Long covid" and its effects on the heart were known and discussed long before the vaccines were available.
How could the effects be known if the vaccine was available within a year of the first known exposures? How do we know the true effects of long covid now, it's only been ~2 years.
By the way, what is considered long? 6 months, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years...
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:00 am to Yewkindewit
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I know of 4 healthy siblings between 65 to 74 who got the jabs. Within 2 years one had a heart attack, the other two had Trips to the ER for AFIB. Prior to that there were no real health issues. 2 of them were 74 and 70 and were not on any daily meds until after the heart issues.
You do understand the concept of aging, yes?
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:03 am to dirty bastard
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Since the jab. I personally know two that have and they were in their early 40s.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:04 am to NIH
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Any data to back this up?
I checked with my life insurance guy on payouts differences and ages of claims. He told me that they've seen a spike in the last year and a half and that the ages are significantly lower than normal. I also asked him about claims during COVID and he said it was lower than normal.
That's what I used to base decisions on how seriously to take the "pandemic"
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:04 am to tigersownall
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OT lefties don’t care. fricking jack boot dick heads. They would line up for the death shot again.
Not so fast. Not even the "left" are getting the jab again.
LINK
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Less than 4% of eligible people have gotten updated Covid booster shots
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:07 am to dgnx6
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Somebody's 90-year-old grandma got covid and six months later she dies. And is labeled as a covid death.
Well since early variants of covid caused acute respiratory distress which places additional stress on multiple organs in the body......yeah, it's pretty likely that the covid had a significant impact. But yeah, they were still 90.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:09 am to LNCHBOX
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Mandating the shot is fricking dumb, but your post is no better. Wife works in health care, as does most of my immediate family. I know way too many people in health care. All have been vaccinated, some boosted. None have had any kind of major complication, let alone died, from the vaccine.
Yall have to realize how crazy you sound, right?
My wife started having irregular heart function (irregular heartbeat) after her first vaccine. Got referred to a cardiologist. She's 44.
My boss, 46 and gotten every vaccine, just had a heart attack sitting in his office a couple of weeks ago.
Both had covid at some point with very mild symptoms. Now they have to worry about permanent heart damage.
Yeah, there were millions of doses administered, but I do believe we are being kept in the dark about long term health effects of this vaccine.
Hell, the CDC, Pfizer, and our federal govt has already been caught lying multiple times about this vaccine.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 10:13 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:12 am to PureBlood
quote:As an FYI, that doesn't jive with the data from the studies discussed and linked in this thread, that show the rise in deaths started well before the vaccine was rolled out.
I checked with my life insurance guy on payouts differences and ages of claims. He told me that they've seen a spike in the last year and a half and that the ages are significantly lower than normal. I also asked him about claims during COVID and he said it was lower than normal.
That's what I used to base decisions on how seriously to take the "pandemic"
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:14 am to Weekend Warrior79
quote:Because the effects were detected before the vaccine was available. Kind of obvious. The effects were also detected in people who did not get the vaccine. Kind of obvious.
How could the effects be known if the vaccine was available within a year of the first known exposures?
I guess to answer your question the effects were obvious and easily detectable.
quote:Well 2 years is a very long fricking time for a respiratory infection. You're right though, we don't know the true long term effects. But what we do know is that heart damage due to covid will be ignored by a significant number of people and it will be blamed on the vaccines instead.
How do we know the true effects of long covid now, it's only been ~2 years.
quote:"Long" would be after the symptoms of the viral respiratory infection have cleared up. I thought that was obvious. And in the case of physical damage to the heart, the effects can last forever.
By the way, what is considered long? 6 months, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years...
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
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But what we do know is that heart damage due to covid will be ignored by a significant number of people and it will be blamed on the vaccines instead.
Agree.
Do you agree that the vaccine could be causing the same damage? Or that a combination of covid and the vaccine could as well?
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