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re: Cardiac Deaths are more Frequent
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am to dirty bastard
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am to dirty bastard
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am to stout
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Excess deaths in people with cardiovascular diseases during the COVID-19 pandemic
Deaths From Heart Disease and Stroke Rose Sharply During Pandemic
And more articles if you searched
Now the question is why? Less hospital access? Is it from CV-related issues? Is it the vaccine? etc. Tons of data that will take years to understand.
Well, your second article focuses on the first year of the pandemic, when there wasn't a vaccine widely available.
Your first article linked talks about CV issues directly related to COVID infection, nothing to do with the vaccine.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am to dirty bastard
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LINK
Nowhere in that article does the word vaccine show up

Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:27 am to WylieTiger
These fools that are arguing have gotten the jab and now they skeered and trying to justify it. IT's comical and sad.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:27 am to LNCHBOX
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Nowhere in that article does the word vaccine show up
The media wouldn't protect their cash cow?
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:27 am to TDsngumbo
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I got it in March 2021 and I’m still around to irritate y’all.
I got mine in May and June of 2021..I didnt get the booster.
How long is the vaccine supposed to last? Shouldn't it have worn off by now?
It's been over a year since I've had mine and I havent dropped dead yet....I think I'm in the clear
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:27 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:also the impact of an already unhealthy & unhappy population staying inside and social isolating for a long period of time
It is definitely occurring. Is it post covid complications, the vaccine, a combination? Who knows.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:28 am to LNCHBOX
And I'll say again, THEY AREN'T GONNA SAY IT WAS THE JAB. 

Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:30 am to GetCocky11
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when there wasn't a vaccine widely available.
Yes and if you read my statement below I never said it was the vaccine that caused the deaths. Just said that cardiac deaths are up which is what the OP said. I posted articles showing the deaths were up since you asked for them. When data for 2022 is released I will gladly update you but that is all that is out there for now.
You also ignored the fact that the largest life insurance companies have all said in the earnings reports for several quarters now that deaths are up and the deaths are not from CV or drug related.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:30 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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also the impact of an already unhealthy & unhappy population staying inside and social isolating for a long period of time
Don’t forget shutting down doctors/hospitals for routine screenings and/or treatment.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:30 am to NIH
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Any data to back this up?
Yeah, VAERS.
After 1.4 Million Reported COVID-19 Vaccine Adverse Effects, GOP Lawmakers Demand Data
You don't find it strange the CDC is refusing to release all the data despite court orders? Or that the CDC is set to rule that Pfizer and Moderna are immune to litigation?
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In January 2022, a federal judge ordered the FDA to release at least 55,000 pages of material every month. However, the FDA is still refusing to release their analyses of VAERS data following a FOIA request for the records.
Fauci worship is a sad, sad thing.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:31 am to dirty bastard
Works both ways. Before covid, I knew 2 people in their early 40's drop dead from cardiac issues. I don't know a lot of people.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:32 am to dirty bastard
Bro that's just some kid who died. It doesn't even mention whether he was vaccinated.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:33 am to dirty bastard

If this wasn't serious it wouldnt be funny but the fact people believe crap like this is hysterical
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:34 am to kciDAtaE
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I don’t understand how there are so many people promoting the shot if the shot kills them all.
Just you WAIT. It’s a ticking time bomb! I personally know 4 men in their 40s who are overweight and smoke and drink and who have other cardiac risk factors but who are otherwise COMPLETELY HEALTHY who have died suddenly in the past 2 years! What is going on?!
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:35 am to dirty bastard
Nicki Minaj says her "cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen.”
She concluded, “His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding."
SADS getting all the coverage. People aren't talking enough about exploding balls.
She concluded, “His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding."
SADS getting all the coverage. People aren't talking enough about exploding balls.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:35 am to GetCocky11
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Well, your second article focuses on the first year of the pandemic, when there wasn't a vaccine widely available. Your first article linked talks about CV issues directly related to COVID infection, nothing to do with the vaccine.
Also worth noting that it seems nobody is accounting for variables like additional stress from lockdowns, job loss, another recession (especially if you’re in that late 30s to 40s range), etc.
Suicide rates are also up, particularly in younger folks.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:35 am to stout
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Excess deaths in people with cardiovascular diseases during the COVID-19 pandemic
Deaths From Heart Disease and Stroke Rose Sharply During Pandemic
And more articles if you searched
Now the question is why? Less hospital access? Is it from CV-related issues? Is it the vaccine? etc. Tons of data that will take years to understand.
I think the biggest indicator something has changed is the largest life insurance companies are all saying that overall deaths not associated with CV or drug overdose are way up. What has caused more younger people to die in the past few years that is not Covid? Well only one other thing besides CV has been introduced into society and forced upon us in the past few years.
Both articles you searched relied on data from 2020. In fact, the first study appears to consider only data from early in the pandemic.
The vax did not make an appearance until Dec 2020. Therefore, it would not have impacted the results in these studies.
You can find plenty of studies out there pre-Covid showing the death rate from cardiac events on young healthy athletes. They all add a disclaimer that the lack of consistent reporting of causes of death makes accurate conclusions difficult. This means that there were more deaths than were found in these studies.
We hear more about everything these days, not just Covid deaths. There was an 8 paragraph article today about Deshaun Watson going 27 mph over the speed limit. That event would not have made the news wire in the 80s and 90s. However, with the advent of the internet and with all news sources following the 24 hour model they have to fill airspace and web sites with something.
I have not seen data to suggest a large change since the vax. If you have, post it.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:36 am to LNCHBOX
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Now this sounds crazy. My family members question medicine and medical professionals all the fricking time. We aren't vaccinating our young children or advocating anything like that. You're reaching because you're a crazy person.
But the leading Dr. of immunology in Louisiana, Dr. Catherine O'Neil, did just this, and stated thousands of children would die if they didn't get the vaccine. She advocated for mandatory vaccines. That vapid count then got a promotion to head of medicine for the Southeastern Conference, AND NEVER frickING APOLOGIZED, at how wrong, wreckless, and irresponsible she was in her fear mongering. Her medical license should be stripped.
Anecdotally, most doctors i know were pushing hard for the vaccine. When i would bring up skepticism about an untested vaccine, they'd simply say, "i'm a dr., i've read the journals on the vaccine, just take it". They, too, were stating "people will die" as if it was a certainty you would die without the vaccine. They all turned out to be 100% wrong because their ego got in the way of common sense. When fedgov pushes something so hard, and then outright tries to criminalize any objection or differing opinions on it, then you know it is horse shite.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:37 am to BugAC
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Or that the CDC is set to rule that Pfizer and Moderna are immune to litigation?
The CDC now determines rules of litigation? Not the courts?
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