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re: Car Sales Are Slipping Into Recession-Level Decline

Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2947 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:23 pm to
And Kias and Hyundai’s are piece of shite vehicles. Fantastic looking and they have all the bells and whistles but they’re engines are complete trash and the nice cosmetic stuff quickly starts to “cheapen”. Been in the automotive business for 20 years and got roped in by the better half to get her a Sportage in 2012. Engine blew at 70,000 miles. Kia has a 100,000 mile power train warranty however if you by a demo, loaner or used (still under bumper to bumper and for this thread we will say 20,000 miles on the used options) car , the power train warranty is null and void (because you didn’t buy the car (new off the lot) in all three of those cases. They had a recall for engine failure from 2012-2016(?) and just so happens this Sportage (2012) didn’t have the correct variance of vin # to be covered under the recall. Yet when paying $7,500.00 to have the engine rebuilt with all new parts (inside and out) the parts installed were the same exact parts that the engine recall called to replace. I’m still thinking our day will come and we will see that money again (and they’ve since added more vin #s to the recall but not the entire generation of motor as of yet. Kia/Hyundai (one in the same) is fricking junk.


TLDR: Kia/Hyundai do not deserve your business. I can if you’ve gotten lucky already. Pain is coming.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:25 pm to
I just passed down my work car to one of the kids. It is a 2009 Accord with 280,000 miles.

It runs like a sewing machine.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48718 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

I just passed down my work car to one of the kids. It is a 2009 Accord with 280,000 miles. 

It runs like a sewing machine. 

We have a 2012 that has 65k on it and has been paid off for years. Plan on giving it to my daughter in 3 years or so.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25070 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:36 pm to
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You can get a toyota yaris for $16k.


Yes, but my point was that midsize sedans are getting more and more expensive. A Yaris isn't a viable means of transportation for a lot of people.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:42 pm to
Yep. Market is saying frick you to new prices and buying used
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:44 pm to
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2008 Silverado. shite yeah

Same here, with roughly 110k miles on it
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75251 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:47 pm to
Muh cash for clunkers
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Instead of a rear view mirror, my dad's new Silverado has a video screen. It's cool and all, but an improvement? Nah.

Is it literally a video screen, or is it a mirror that shows the backup camera when in reverse? If it's the former, hopefully it or the camera never malfunctions...
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4724 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:57 pm to
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light vehicle


I wonder what classified as one?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30214 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:58 pm to
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You gotta go 96 months out just to make the note affordable on a $40,000 car.


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98271 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:05 pm to
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Is it literally a video screen, or is it a mirror that shows the backup camera when in reverse? If it's the former, hopefully it or the camera never malfunctions...


It's literally a video screen. Very distracting to go from looking at the road ahead to a video rear view and back. I wouldn't want one in my vehicle.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71312 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84256 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Except they don't:

Base Camry: $24,095
Base Accord: $23,720

I take your point that the $35k+ models are the top of their lines and represent a small portion of total sales, but when the top of the line models increase in price, so do the base models.

Sub $20k today puts you in the base Civic ($19,450), and base Corolla ($19,500).

Not sure where I got $20k for the midsizes. Still though, cars are much cheaper than the OT would have you think. Just look at all the posts acting like you can't buy a new car for less than $40k.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5627 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:15 pm to
Lesbian
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3161 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:23 pm to
Cars are lasting longer with very competitive warranties imo.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:24 pm to
Great, I’m ready to get a new truck. Hopefully these assholes will finally get their heads out of their asses and start offering ten year financing. Truck nuts included!!!
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3182 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:26 pm to
I plan on driving my 2012 model SUV until it becomes more expensive to fix it than it is to get a new car - and I'm hoping that's far in the future.

I hate going to dealerships. Cars last a very long time now; and I have no desire to use mine as a status symbol and couldn't give two shits what its hypothetical 0 to 60 time is as I drive the speed limit to and from work.



Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6393 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:28 pm to
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2019 subuaro outback sport.. 4 cylnder 175 hp for 31k?


Wife has the 18’ with the bigger engine (they quit making it). Has everything you can get in one. Paid 37-38k I think. She loves it. Gets 22-23 in the city and 28-30 on the hwy. that dude will get after it.

If you’re in BR, the Subaru of BR folks are good people. They are about to expand as well.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89594 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:37 pm to
Cars (really trucks and SUVs, mostly) are high as giraffe's balls.

I mean, yeah I'm old (wanna fight about it?), but cars today cost what houses did 20, 25 years ago.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25782 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:41 pm to
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I saw a 240 month note on a boat


Have you priced boats lately? A mid-level manufacturers 26-27 ft LOA open bow will run you $120-$140k new. 25' bay boat 80-100k. A 32' express cruiser over $300k. I can ride a mile or so each way from my camp and see millions of dollars in boats on lifts. While all of them weren't bought new a lot were and the majority of these baws didn't pay cash.
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