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Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:39 am
Posted by Abikaasa_Posti_Teel
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
2149 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:39 am
First off, I know just like buying a pool, jet ski, or boat, I am about to make the worst investment a human can make and buy a new car. Basically, I know I am about to get screwed. With that said, wife (no pics) is looking at a Ford Edge, or the new Chevy Blazer.
I told her in my opinion, a dealership would be less likely to come down on sticker price on a new model vehicle like the Blazer because they know people like to buy shinny new things. But the more I think about it, I wonder if they would actually be more likely to come down due to the fact there are some many unknowns... The Blazer has no history of reliability, gas mileage, safety, ect...like competing models that have been on the market for a few years such as the Edge. Or neither of that might matter and I might just be over thinking it.

I just feel like maybe I can get them down more with it having so many question marks being brand new model and all.
Thoughts?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:41 am to
#willcovermethod
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I just feel like maybe I can get them down more with it having so many question marks being brand new model and all. Thoughts?

probably get a good deal on a 2018, I'm sure there's a lot of them still on the lot, check out Costco's car buying program, they can track down decent prices, or if your company has a credit union a lot of them have pricing deals with the car companies
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I am about to make the worst investment a human can make and buy a new car


Don't view it as an investment, it's an expense
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:46 am to
Price depends upon many different factors.

Supply vs. demand. Area of the country. Rates (for leasing). Manufacturer incentives.

But the single biggest factor in price is how well you can or can't negotiate.


Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38973 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:47 am to
What does it matter ‘how much they come down’? The actual value is much more important. How much you appreciate what the features bring, all sorts of shite. You just want to ‘save’ money? How about buying what you want and enjoying it?
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
2735 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:47 am to
If she is dead set on the new blazer wait until August/ September. The 20’s will be coming out around that time, and they will be looking to cut a deal. If you go in now, you might get a few rebates but nothing that’s going to offset the price dramaticly. Just my two cents.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84086 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:48 am to
I love my Edge Sport (now called ST for 2019). Would recommend.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58338 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:49 am to
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Chevy Blaze


It’s a shame what the vehicle attached to this name has become.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:49 am to
Perform your due diligence and call the factory to find the invoice cost of the model you wish to purchase and start your negotiation process there. Do not go in blindly, not knowing the invoice cost and instead attempt to negotiate off of the MSRP.

Go to your local credit union and obtain financing though them, and by all means, not the damn dealership. They will hold back a couple percentages on the rate in an attempt to frick you over.

Pin one dealship against he other in your negotiation process for price and do not feel bad about threatening to walk away. They will inevitably fold, since you hold all the cards as the buyer.

Do not negotiate on payment, whatever you do. Instead focus on negotiating the cost of the vehicle, whereas the math will take care of itself in the end.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:52 am to
Got a used car buying guide?
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3150 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Do not negotiate on payment, whatever you do. Instead focus on negotiating the cost of the vehicle, whereas the math will take care of itself in the end.







So I purchased the new Blazer for only $12,450 and my note was only $728/month.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1804 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:50 pm to
Okay I have wanted to ask you. Are you a former sales person or dealer? How do you know about car buying?
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7575 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:52 pm to
Buy a 4runner and call it a day.

You’re welcome
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

call the factory to find the invoice cost of the model you wish to purchase


I didn’t even know that was an option to do.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Are you a former sales person or dealer?


No and no.

quote:

How do you know about car buying?


Years of buying experience and plenty of researching prior to making a decision.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119131 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

sticker price


If you are using this for negotiation, you should not be buying cars.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1804 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 3:43 pm to
I got ya. Thought you might have professional experience in the car biz.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 3:52 pm to
No, but I do know several people who are / have been in the industry.

It's a tough gig. Long hours. High turnover. Bad reputation (some are certainly warranted).
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Years of buying experience and plenty of researching prior to making a decision.


I'm not knocking your method, but it's not negotiating and it's just causing the industry to maintain the status quo. They play games, so I have to play games too? I understand it, but it isn't helping anything change. It just gets the next sweet grandma's head busted. If you don't like that a dealer plays games, don't buy from that fricker.

Also, why does everyone focus on price and not value? Which would you prefer: Dealer 1, who uses quality brake pads, quality fluids, and whose employees have been taught to truly service the customer or Dealer 2, who uses Walmart oil, Amazon special parts, and lies about what he has added to the car? Dealer 2 can likely give you a better price, but you are the one paying for that better price.

You guys being ghetto about this shite forces dealers to conform to the same tactics. It's a vicious circle, and I wish that it would change.

Eta: spelling
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 3:57 pm
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