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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:03 pm to
I think infinity is the big brother of JBL. Both owned by Harmon
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:10 pm to
Also OP crutchfield is a good place to check (you can probably find the components cheaper elsewhere though) and if you google "audio" plus you truck make/model I'm sure there are car audio forums out there with threads discussing so that would be a good resource for info as well.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:17 pm to
Just looked it up and it seems to be the other way around, JBL being the big brother of Infinity.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:19 pm to
Yeah I've done all of that but with car audio, there is so much more as far as specifics. Then there are people that say they need stuff that they really don't need for a basic upgrade. I'm not looking for super audiophile quality.
Posted by HatefulTiger
SELA
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:19 pm to
Several brands make low profile subs that require less airspace, JL and Kicker both offer these.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:21 pm to
lol I think I have a stalker that just auto-downvotrs all my posts.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:27 pm to
Congrats
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:52 pm to
so your factory head unit in the toyota has a factory sound curve preset into it. You will need to detune this.

honestly your best bet is to go through tacotunes since you don't know much about it. get the plug and play either recurve or the amps and buy the replacement speakers off amazon or woofersetc

I am in the same position with my 2014 tundra, i have the jbl and the sound is horrible. I can have it all the way up and carry on a normal conversation.

btw stick to reputable brands.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:02 pm to
Just my personal experience but Infinity is crap.

About five years ago I replaced all of the stock speakers in my truck with the same-size Infinitys plus an Infinity powered-subwoofer.

Within two years two of the speakers failed completely as well the amp in the powered subwoofer.

I had a guy put a new amp in the subwoofer and replaced the speakers with Polks.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:02 pm to
Just my personal experience but Infinity is crap.

About five years ago I replaced all of the stock speakers in my truck with the same-size Infinitys plus an Infinity powered-subwoofer.

Within two years two of the speakers failed completely as well the amp in the powered subwoofer.

I had a guy put a new amp in the subwoofer and replaced the speakers with Polks.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:13 pm to
Anybody have any experience with component vs coaxial speakers?
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Get JL audio and you will think me later



Fify
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50500 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:26 pm to
I haven't messed with car audio in over a decade, but I'll give advice on some things that almost certainly haven't changed:
1) amplifier is way more important than head unit. Back in the day, some of the vehicles that took place in sound quality competitions still used the stock HU.
2) Components are always of better quality than coaxials. The components should be the focus of your system.
3) I would use that 4 channel amp that you were considering to power your front components, then bridge the other 2 channels to power the sub. Disconnect or significantly attenuate the rear speakers.
4) An 8" sub should be enough if your "bumping days" are over. Someone mentioned JL earlier, they used to make really good subs.
5) After a quick look at woofersetc (they used to be a good site back in the day), Focal, CDT, JL, and Dynaudio all stand out. Make sure that whatever speakers you get will fit in your door.
6) Crutchfield is pretty shitty. Big markups.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:33 pm to
So would you recommend putting higher quality fronts and either leaving the back speakers alone or buying cheap ones or just upgrade all with mediocre budget speakers?

If I don't put an external amp now to the door speakers, how would the components do? I heard they are more power hungry.

In reality, I don't feel like wiring the door speakers to the amp. I'm being lazy. Lol
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50500 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:38 pm to
Yes. Again, I would only have the front components and subwoofer playing any sound. You said you didn't like your current speakers, so why have them playing shitty sound, taking away from your fancy new components? You're not watching movies or playing video games, there's no need for surround sound.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11878 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:39 pm to
JL Audio, FWIW, entered the high end home audio arena about 8 years ago. Their reference subs are often mated at audio shows with floor standing loudspeakers ringing in north of $150k--their subs and crossover technology is that good!

I would venture that their lower lines for auto are probably pretty darn good as well.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38624 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:46 pm to
Go with components. Should be 6.5 in door and tweeter in sail panel. Get the recurve from taco tunes and then no need to rewire as everything uses stock wiring after that. I repeat what I said earlier, go with a dsp like the recurve or ink ms-8 used or replace the head unit. You will not be able to get good sound out of the stock head unit that is in your truck due to the factory preset curve.

For speakers you can't go wrong with jl audio. For amps go with zapco. For rear fill just get a cheap coaxial, like the lowest line jl makes.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:57 pm to
Maybe it's my ADD, but I don't like it quiet in half of the car. Highs are directional, so you can hear where they are coming from


He also said he needs to cut out holes for and make tweeters fit in his A-pillars or doors. That is pretty much a pain in the arse if you want it to look right


Also, silk dome tweeters >>>>>> metallic dome tweeters. IIRC, JL only has metal. I've had JL highs before, and did not like them at all. Switched to Boston
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:59 pm to
The sail panel is a clip on so I don't think that'll be hard.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:00 pm to
I thought you said you don't have a spot for tweeters on your A-pillar?
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