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re: Can we agree that America is no longer the greatest Country on Earth?

Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:15 am to
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:15 am to
it hasn't been since reagan started completely dismantling all workers rights and protections in this country and started waging a war on the working class and minorities

"All lives matter" is a dog whistle. No one ever disagrees that all lives matter. but for all lives to matter, black lives, mexican lives, etc. have to matter first, and right now they really don't. you can bring up your stats that show white people get brutalized by the police too and it's true but the rate at which it happens in minority societies is disproportionate, full stop. Not even getting into other systemic issues that cause them to feel this way.

And whether you're intelligent and honest enough to admit it, doesn't make it any less true. you're stuck in a little fox news bubble and refusing to poke your head above the water to see the reality of people's lives in this country then lashing out at them when they have the audacity to challenge you for it.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:24 am to
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I love my country, and I do not take my freedom for granted. When the words “All Lives Matter” become offensive, it’s time to evaluate where we are at as a society.



I have to agree but it's not because of this event going on now. It's so much more. We've lost our way in soooo many ways. We're glutinous to a fault.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:36 am to
No, it still is the greatest country on Earth.

Problem is, we diluted what it means to be an American.

We started catering to the lowest denominator and stopped slapping the Holy Hell out of idiots who acted up.

A good dose of common sense and "toxic masculinity" can cure most of our ills.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:39 am to
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To be fair, "Black Lives Matter" became offensive to some before


It is offensive in that it insinuates there is a belief otherwise.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11837 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:40 am to
We were at our pinnacle in the 80s and 90s.

Then the internet and social media started to become ubiquitous. It's negative impact on society and personal interaction, respect for others, is still very understated.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
6204 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:44 am to
America is still the best, but the margin is thin. The "land of the free" slogan isn't all that true anymore. A lot of countries now have similar levels of freedom.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:45 am to
It never was the greatest country on Earth. That’s always been propaganda.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99045 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:45 am to
It’s hasn’t been for a long time
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:46 am to
When was it?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:46 am to
There is no greatest country anymore - maybe Australia or New Zealand
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:51 am to
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When the words “All Lives Matter” become offensive


It's incredible how obtuse people want to be.

The words are offensive because of the context behind them when they are said.

"All Lives Matter" is only said as a qualifier or to downplay the words "Black Lives Matter". That's why it's "offensive" - because some people can't bring themselves to simply say "Black lives matter" without qualifying the statement or softening it.

If All Lives Matter was said on it's own, without any connection to BLM, no one would have an issue with it. Everyone, BLM included, agrees that all lives matter. But no one has ever felt the need for an all lives matter movement because no one has ever felt that all lives were under attack or facing hardship.

It's not complicated. The All Lives Matter crowd chooses to be intentionally obtuse because they don't want to address the issues the BLM movement is about.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:53 am to
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ll Lives Matter" is only said as a qualifier or to downplay the words "Black Lives Matter". That's why it's "offensive" - because some people can't bring themselves to simply say "Black lives matter" without qualifying the statement or softening it.


100 this

you're moving up my poster rankings list dude. very good stuff lately
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99813 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:56 am to
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Tigerfan56


You and Mr Perfect are match made in heaven
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50967 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:03 am to
Greatest economy maybe, but we are a completely deranged society and due to mass immigration we will look like a Latin American country soon (small super wealthy elite and a bunch of peasants)
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141277 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:09 am to
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deranged society


This is true.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12625 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:10 am to
You don’t love it if you don’t believe that it’s the greatest. Go away communist.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10063 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:10 am to
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Can we agree that America is no longer the greatest Country on Earth?


Considering we have only been around for a few hundred years I don't think we qualify.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:11 am to
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You don’t love it if you don’t believe that it’s the greatest. Go away communist.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58632 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:12 am to
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you can bring up your stats that show white people get brutalized by the police too and it's true but the rate at which it happens in minority societies is disproportionate,
so are the incarnation rates. Bwahaha
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