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re: Can someone explain to be how sobriety check points are legal?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:40 pm to LCA131
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:40 pm to LCA131
quote:
How so?
You’re calling it a license check, and you know that’s not what it is. You’re calling it that to try and invalidate it’s true purpose. Thus, you are being purposefully disingenuous while acting like police are the problem and not the drunk drivers.
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Never take the tests and ever answer questions.
Ever.
YW.
Ever.
YW.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Gravy agrees with you.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:45 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:
And?
It is a ruse. They have no curiosity AT ALL, about who I am. Whether the car is fully registered or insured. Don't care a single bit.
I'm pretending no such thing. I just know they have no right to accost me with no reason and demand papers.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:45 pm to IndianPower
This day and age with uber etc. there is no excuse to drive intoxicated.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:48 pm to LCA131
quote:
I'm pretending no such thing. I just know they have no right to accost me with no reason and demand papers.
You’re not even a slightly serious person with this asinine argument.
You are not being accosted, at all. You aren’t being put out to show a cop a license or insurance or registration. You can beat your chest all you want, but if you handing over your license or insurance card to a cop at a checkpoint so the cop can try to determine if you or any of the people before or behind you are or aren’t drunk, so what.
Go cry a river or grab your balls and argue with a cop at a checkpoint, but if they get drunks off the road and save a family going home to celebrate Christmas after visiting the grandparents, I am all for them.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:49 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Don’t be a loser
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:50 pm to TexasTiger33
This appears to be a very divisive issue. I can see both sides have valid points.
On one hand, it's a matter of the unconstitutionality of being detained without probable cause which is fundamentally a problem and a slippery slope.
On the other, so many lives are needlessly lost due to folks driving while impaired. That also applies to distracted driving and I get that. It's not just your own safety you put at risk but the safety of others, and that's why I am not opposed to them.
Just my $0.02
On one hand, it's a matter of the unconstitutionality of being detained without probable cause which is fundamentally a problem and a slippery slope.
On the other, so many lives are needlessly lost due to folks driving while impaired. That also applies to distracted driving and I get that. It's not just your own safety you put at risk but the safety of others, and that's why I am not opposed to them.
Just my $0.02
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:52 pm to TexasTiger33
Implied consent. If you drive on a public highway there are rules.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:54 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
They are a clear violation of the 4th amendment.
I'm always amazed at the brain dead "Muh, If you ain't doin nuttin wrong den why does youz care?"
I'm always amazed at the brain dead "Muh, If you ain't doin nuttin wrong den why does youz care?"
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:54 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
quote:
We should just go back to prohibition
Yea.
That really stopped people from partaking
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:54 pm to TexasTiger33
My HOA installed checkpoints from 7p to 7a wed thru sundays and on all Holidays. Zero exceptions.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:55 pm to FreeState
I think you're right because they also do random pulling over of suspicious vehicles to stop drug running operations. No probable cause needed in those instances.
The ability to do that must have been legislated at some point I presume
The ability to do that must have been legislated at some point I presume
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:56 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
We gave up our 4th Amendment rights during the War on Drugs.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:56 pm to All Hat
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They are a clear violation of the 4th amendment.
If this was even slightly accurate, they would have long ago been ruled so via the courts. But they’re not.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:57 pm to Tiger Ryno
Wow. HOAs are the smallest and most localized form of government at least in Texas.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:01 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:I do know they are named incorrectly.
Can someone explain to be how sobriety check points are legal?
The don't check if you are sober. There aren't tests for that.
They do test if you are drunk.
So based on them lying with the name, they should be illegal.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:03 pm to All Hat
Well driving isn’t a right… so if you do, you have to follow the rules.
Pretty simple
Pretty simple
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:03 pm to DustyDinkleman
quote:
We should just go back to prohibition
Yea.
That really stopped people from partaking
Da fuc golf got to do with this
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:05 pm to FlyingPelican
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By stopping and checking everyone, there is no profiling or discrimination.
It's illegal for a cop to stop someone on the street and demand an ID unless there is reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in a criminal activity.
A cop can't stop a vehicle on the road unless there is a traffic violation, an issue with the vehicle itself (tail light, expired plate), reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in criminal activity, suspicion of impaired driving.
At checkpoints people are stopped without meeting any legal justification.
It is literally a "Show me your papers" stop.
Retards are more concerned about Backing the Blue than they are about their Constitutional Rights being violated.
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