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re: Calling LSUNURSE, other nurses, or mathematicians

Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:16 pm to
0.43ml per hour is dead wrong!
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3898 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:17 pm to
The answer is 2100ml/hr but infusing D5W at that rate would cause significant problems as it is a hypotonic solution and would cause hemolysis. Basically the question is flawed.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:17 pm to
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The answer is 2100ml/hr but infusing D5W at that rate would cause significant problems as it is a hypotonic solution and would cause hemolysis. Basically the question is flawed.


med math questions usually are shite
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
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This place is not her job.




Right....that's how it works. Noted.
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3898 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
True. It's obvious these questions are written by non-clinicians.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3342 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
She's getting the same answer everyone is 2100 ml/hr but the answer on her worksheet says .43 so after talking with the intelligent people of the OT (minus LSUNURSE) and her classmates, we have concluded the worksheet answer is wrong.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
Isn't it something like 70x2.2 and then 500 x 1 divided by 60 or some crap?

Or divided by 2.2?



This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
It doesn't always follow that the answer provided is the correct one. Enough people in this thread say 2100 per hour that I would doubt the validity of the answer the worksheet gives.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27245 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:19 pm to
I'm no mathematician or nurse, but it looks like this doesn't exactly involve higher level math to solve. I have coworkers that complain about doing math when all it involves is entering stuff into a simple a*b*c = d equation. You have a calculator in your pocket, for heaven's sake.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:20 pm to
Not in the medical field but can't you just arrange it so the units are right?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:20 pm to
Yep
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:20 pm to
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She's getting the same answer everyone is 2100 ml/hr but the answer on her worksheet says .43 so after talking with the intelligent people of the OT (minus LSUNURSE) and her classmates, we have concluded the worksheet answer is wrong.


you think those answers are flawed, check out the walraven basic arrhythmias book.. seems to be a common issue here with medical workbooks
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7068 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:21 pm to
question is probably written by some grad student bitch who doesnt give a shite bc the prof doesnt give a shite.

Thats how it usually goes.
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3898 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:22 pm to
Was there a clinical scenario given with the question? Just curious
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9819 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:23 pm to
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She might want to rethink nursing school if she can't figure out simple drug dosing questions.


Are you on your period?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:23 pm to
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Isn't it something like 70x2.2 and then 500 x 1 divided by 60 or some crap?

Or divided by 2.2?



convert the 1mg in 500 ml to mcg/ml which would be 1000 mcg/500 ml or 2/1, then take the 1mcg * 70 kg (patients weight) * 60 min (in an hour cause were converting) and put it over the 2 mcg / ml. after you multiply it comes out to 4200 / 2 = 2100 ml / hr
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3342 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Was there a clinical scenario given with the question? Just curious


Nope. No scenario. Just what I gave you
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:25 pm to
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1 * 70 kg * 60 (min/ 1 hr) / 2 (mcg of epi in 1 ml D5W) = 4200/2 = 2100 ml/hr



That's what I got after I wrote it down
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7068 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:25 pm to
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She might want to rethink nursing school if she can't figure out simple drug dosing questions.


why's it matter, do nurses actually decide dosages irl, i hope not

Some of the dumbest girls I know ended up in nursing school, so that is scary if true
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 6:27 pm
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