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re: Calling all OT Operators
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:55 pm to SouthTiger504
Posted on 10/21/15 at 4:55 pm to SouthTiger504
Plant experience will out-weigh your P tech degree. If you see your not getting anywhere go work a little construction to get some familiarity with how plants function. Plants are starting to get away from p tech students because they think once they took a class they known everything there is to know. Best advice is question everything and dont be a lazy bum like some of your co workers. You will get promoted faster.
I started out shovling slop at a grain elevator and worked my way up into the control room there, got some experience with DCS, and now im the 2nd highest in Human Resources at the ripe age of 34 at a plant in the Gonzales area. All on a high school diploma. Work your arse off and you will rise fast. I would try to avoid union plants just for the fact I dont like my money fricked with and they tend to strike alot even though it works out in the end.
I started out shovling slop at a grain elevator and worked my way up into the control room there, got some experience with DCS, and now im the 2nd highest in Human Resources at the ripe age of 34 at a plant in the Gonzales area. All on a high school diploma. Work your arse off and you will rise fast. I would try to avoid union plants just for the fact I dont like my money fricked with and they tend to strike alot even though it works out in the end.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:09 pm to SouthTiger504
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What's wrong with Dow? I've always heard good things about them
Probably depends on who you ask and what unit they work in. I work at a plant with a reputation of being a good plant, but my unit sucks.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:13 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Great to hear that some of you young folk are still willing to go out and earn an honest wage. Plant work isn't easy or glamorous, but you will put food on the table and provide for your kin.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:18 pm to Carson123987
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Lots of bullshite questions. 'tell me how you solved this problem in you current job'
FIFY
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:26 pm to LSUaFOOL
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try to avoid union plants
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2nd highest in Human Resources
Probably not biased.
HR created the disgrace that unions are today. Neutered them then want bitch about their ineffectiveness in controlling employees.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 5:44 pm to SouthTiger504
Get on with a contractor and get some in plant experience doing anything. Just get familiar with the "plant culture" and the safety. I would try turner, ISC, triad, mmr, Jacobs, excel, performance.
I met a new operator the other day. He went to school for HVAC and was a scaffold builder for 2 years. It goes to show that a lot of these plants hire and train guys "their style" from the ground up.
I met a new operator the other day. He went to school for HVAC and was a scaffold builder for 2 years. It goes to show that a lot of these plants hire and train guys "their style" from the ground up.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 1:26 am to SouthTiger504
What school do you go to?
Lots of baby boomer operators are starting to retire everywhere, so the market should be really good.
Interns, from what I hear are anywhere from 18 to 25 an hour. And I just graduated a year ago, so it should still be somewhere around there. The hours are usually like 200 or 400 total intern hours depending on the place.
I would say both experience and degree, get on with a contractor while in school if at all possible, if not just do really well in school, and really make your resume look like your use to troubleshooting and working with your hands.
Along the Miss river everything is pretty competitive right now, as it will always have to be for companies to keep good hands.
Small chance you're hired before you're finished, but it is possible.
Not to make you nervous, but most places are trying to see how you act under duress or uncomfortable. Ask you situation type questions, and then question your answer to get you thinking and reacting.
My company is only hiring guys with PTEC degrees. It is a big plus if you have experience, but they want that degree. My hiring class was 6 guys and everyone had a degree and plant experience, except me, but I was top of my class with a solid resume and a referral.
Lots of baby boomer operators are starting to retire everywhere, so the market should be really good.
Interns, from what I hear are anywhere from 18 to 25 an hour. And I just graduated a year ago, so it should still be somewhere around there. The hours are usually like 200 or 400 total intern hours depending on the place.
I would say both experience and degree, get on with a contractor while in school if at all possible, if not just do really well in school, and really make your resume look like your use to troubleshooting and working with your hands.
Along the Miss river everything is pretty competitive right now, as it will always have to be for companies to keep good hands.
Small chance you're hired before you're finished, but it is possible.
Not to make you nervous, but most places are trying to see how you act under duress or uncomfortable. Ask you situation type questions, and then question your answer to get you thinking and reacting.
My company is only hiring guys with PTEC degrees. It is a big plus if you have experience, but they want that degree. My hiring class was 6 guys and everyone had a degree and plant experience, except me, but I was top of my class with a solid resume and a referral.
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 1:30 am
Posted on 10/22/15 at 4:28 am to bayoumuscle21
Lots of movement between plants by operators looking for greener pastures. On interviews, focus on being a great employee first. I was told that my company was looking for great employees....they could train me to be a great operator.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 5:05 am to Rickety Cricket
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Great to hear that some of you young folk are still willing to go out and earn an honest wage. Plant work isn't easy or glamorous, but you will put food on the table and provide for your kin.
This! Hell, some one has to help the world keep turning.
As a retired plant worker, there are times I could of just walked away due to shift hour working and not being able to be with my family when I really wanted to be.
Good luck young man and if and when you do get in, apply yourself and you will move up the ranks fast.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:44 am to SouthTiger504
ExxonMobil is hiring on a regular basis. Go ahead and apply because you might not get an interview right off. It may take up to a couple of years. Always stay current with your application, and get a job at ANY plant until you get a chance at EM. I've been there almost 38 years and will retire in 3.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:44 am to SouthTiger504
You aren't wasting your time applying now. Any experience with interviews will help out in the long run. If you are offered an internship, take it. A lot of places say that there aren't any spots available, but will hire on interns if they are good workers. They will either work 8 hour shifts, or get put on 12 hours. Interns are easier to fire if they become lazy. If you can't get on with a plant, try sgs and savage. They do more operations work than construction, so that will get you some experience and get you inside the gate meeting people. The highest paid plants in the river parish area are entergy, marathon, dupont, and valero.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:28 am to SouthTiger504
I was hired as a PTEC intern and I just made a year as a full time employee of the plant. All plants are different and then all units are different within the plant itself. There are no across the board answers to your questions, so I'll give you answers based on my experience.
I started out doing computer based training on days (4 tens). I got moved to shift after a few weeks. Our shift is such that you get 84 hours on a pay period if you just go in on the scheduled days. During the intern period, I wasn't eligible for benefits or OT. All OT had to be approved. Started out at $45k a year. Not bad for bottom of the totem pole. I now make $65k a year (without OT calculated in) and still towards the bottom. Benefits are ok, but still a hell of a lot better than I would make in private industry. Be absolutely sure you're ok working shift work and being called out from time to time (to fill in for somebody who called in sick).
All plants have different times they like to bring in new hires. What I've seen is that the older guys all like to retire together, so their spots have to be filled on the shift. Otherwise, the other operators have to fill that spot and the plant is paying a lot of OT.
You can absolutely get hired before you finish. I did.
As far as the best to work for, the plants with the safest records. Dow, Exxon, Shell, Motiva. You are working in an extremely dangerous environment. You want to be able to go home at the end of the day, the same way as when you got there. Not all plants are as committed to safety as much as they are making profit. Avoid those like the plague.
Interviews, too much info. Best thing is to go on interviews and get experience doing them. Tell them what they want to hear, but don't get caught with your pants down not being able to back your answer up.
I started out doing computer based training on days (4 tens). I got moved to shift after a few weeks. Our shift is such that you get 84 hours on a pay period if you just go in on the scheduled days. During the intern period, I wasn't eligible for benefits or OT. All OT had to be approved. Started out at $45k a year. Not bad for bottom of the totem pole. I now make $65k a year (without OT calculated in) and still towards the bottom. Benefits are ok, but still a hell of a lot better than I would make in private industry. Be absolutely sure you're ok working shift work and being called out from time to time (to fill in for somebody who called in sick).
All plants have different times they like to bring in new hires. What I've seen is that the older guys all like to retire together, so their spots have to be filled on the shift. Otherwise, the other operators have to fill that spot and the plant is paying a lot of OT.
You can absolutely get hired before you finish. I did.
As far as the best to work for, the plants with the safest records. Dow, Exxon, Shell, Motiva. You are working in an extremely dangerous environment. You want to be able to go home at the end of the day, the same way as when you got there. Not all plants are as committed to safety as much as they are making profit. Avoid those like the plague.
Interviews, too much info. Best thing is to go on interviews and get experience doing them. Tell them what they want to hear, but don't get caught with your pants down not being able to back your answer up.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 4:10 pm to RealityTiger
Thanks for all the info guys. Hopefully I can land something soon.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 4:42 pm to bayoumuscle21
I'm at Nunez in Chalmette. Also top of my class with a 4.0, do they take GPA into account?
Posted on 10/22/15 at 5:31 pm to SouthTiger504
You originally had two plants listed that you took the test for. Now you only have one. Why?
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:32 pm to iamAG
Citgo in Lake Charles is hiring operators. No experience necessary, just a ptec degree.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:51 pm to SouthTiger504
If it hasnt been posted before. ExxonMobil is doing testing the first weekend of December.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:59 pm to SouthTiger504
what the hell is a plant operator?
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:59 pm to SouthTiger504
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I'm at Nunez in Chalmette. Also top of my class with a 4.0, do they take GPA into account?
The best refinery and newest is Marathon in garyville. Monster size looking to expand again in the near future, Excellent safety record as well. They bring in interns frequently so be on the look out. Good Luck
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:08 pm to fightin tigers
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try to avoid union plants
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2nd highest in Human Resources
Probably not biased.
HR created the disgrace that unions are today. Neutered them then want bitch about their ineffectiveness in controlling employees.
In my defense I have never worked union facilities but I do see the problems that it can bring.
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