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re: California is now the 4th largest economy in the world

Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:12 pm to
California should be broken up into 6 states.

Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9653 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:16 pm to
I'm so proud of California! The red states have been berating and ridiculing California and it's citizens for so long that it's good to see them get their faces rubbed in the success California is having economically. As a matter of fact, just to cap it all off, California should secede and start their own country just to really rub it in and show those shallow, narrow-minded conservatives!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:16 pm to
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I'm so proud of California! The red states have been berating and ridiculing California and it's citizens for so long that it's good to see them get their faces rubbed in the success California is having economically. As a matter of fact, just to cap it all off, California should secede and start their own country just to really rub it in and show those shallow, narrow-minded conservatives!


Support.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90329 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:22 pm to
Amen
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170577 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Modest compared to California is a fricking understatement of the century.


We are being robbed by California.

Dude Louisiana is a welfare state

Louisiana is the one doing the robbing if anything
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In 2021, Montana led the states with the highest proportion of federal funding to the overall budget at 31.8%, followed by New Mexico (30.7%), Kentucky (30.1%), Louisiana (29.8%), and Alaska (29.0%).

Vermont relied on federal grants the least, with just 12.8% of its total budget coming from the federal government – a total reversal from 2020, when it topped the list with 35.7% of revenues coming from the feds thanks to four federal acts passed that year. In 2020 and 2021, Vermont received over $4.9 billion in federal grants.

Despite receiving the most federal funding dollar-wise, California was the second-least reliant state on a percentage basis, with 14.5% of revenue coming from the federal government, followed by Minnesota (14.6%), South Dakota (15.0%), and Iowa (15.5%).


Louisiana is literally twice as reliant on the federal government as California
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8096 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:29 pm to
And still broke
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4332 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:30 pm to
And the worst run
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4332 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:43 pm to
Gumbo is butthurt and down voting all replies.
California sucks
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:52 pm to
you’re a hillbilly in Tennessee with an internet education. Pipe down, we all know why you’re an overnight fan of the state of California. Centrist elsewhere.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90329 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:56 pm to
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you’re a hillbilly in Tennessee with an internet education. Pipe down, we all know why you’re an overnight fan of the state of California. Centrist elsewhere.
I just state facts and my opinions man. California is a machine as far as pumping money into the American economy.

Like always, I was right.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27496 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:11 pm to
Why is California always begging for federal money then ?


Piss poor management is why, the Pelosi family, pencil neck and Gavin Newscum have ruined the state
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28163 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Dude Louisiana is a welfare state





They wont believe you. Great hunting and fishing though.....
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:21 pm to
They are (by far) the most populous state in the world’s richest nation. Nominal gdp is a bit of a useless stat.

Bangladesh has a higher nominal gdp than Switzerland. Where would you rather live?

Here are some facts about California, as a current resident

1) over the past 25 years, California’s gdp growth rate has been in the bottom half of all 50 states *every year*

2) California has the highest gas prices in the country.

3) California leads the nation in out-migration (adjusted for population)

4) California is routinely rated as one of the worst states to live in if you are middle class

5) California has the lowest home ownership rate of any state

6) California has the highest taxes

7) using cost of living adjustments, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation

8) despite sky high taxes, California k-12 schools almost always fall in the bottom half or bottom third of educational performance studies.

9) California leads the nation in companies leaving for other state (adjusted for total businesses)


Don’t take my word for it. The 2032 census is set to remove *4* electoral votes from CA due to the population loss


What’s that saying…..”people vote with their feet”

This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:22 pm to
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In 2021, Montana led the states with the highest proportion of federal funding to the overall budget at 31.8%, followed by New Mexico (30.7%), Kentucky (30.1%), Louisiana (29.8%), and Alaska (29.0%).

Vermont relied on federal grants the least, with just 12.8% of its total budget coming from the federal government – a total reversal from 2020, when it topped the list with 35.7% of revenues coming from the feds thanks to four federal acts passed that year. In 2020 and 2021, Vermont received over $4.9 billion in federal grants.

Despite receiving the most federal funding dollar-wise, California was the second-least reliant state on a percentage basis, with 14.5% of revenue coming from the federal government, followed by Minnesota (14.6%), South Dakota (15.0%), and Iowa (15.5%).


Louisiana may or may not be a welfare state, but these rankings are skewed just like GDP is without looking at the big picture. States with a lot of military, NASA or other Fed facilities "receive" federal funding in the form of the budgets for those agencies, and it gets counted here in these "rankings". The impression you're supposed to get is that this is all some kind of federal welfare giveaway, but it's not for many of the states on the list.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:30 pm to
you haven’t stated a single fact or provided any additional context in this thread. or any other for that matter. link?

Yes, we all know California has a massive and powerful economy, we didn't need your “rah rah my team” bullshite. (as usual)
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:31 pm to
It’s also misleading for another reason.

The “states” don’t give money to the Feds and the “states” don’t receive money from the Feds

People do. States that have a high percentage of old people on social security and Medicare, like Florida, are going to appear to be welfare states, even though it’s just money going to retired people that live there.

The same people who complain that certain states “give” and certain states “take” are the same people who generally support the progressive income tax structure that contributes to this as well.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:35 pm to
California has highest poverty rate in America

LINK
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2822 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:36 pm to
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California's state and local government debt is roughly $1.6 trillion.


This is the number you need to remember. They are going to want a federal bailout soon.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:36 pm to
California ranks 43rd in education.

LINK
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90329 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:38 pm to
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you haven’t stated a single fact or provided any additional context in this thread. or any other for that matter. link?
I did in threads before this one. On multiple occasions.

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Yes, we all know California has a massive and powerful economy
about damn time you can admit some facts.
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