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re: Cali man has $29k siezed in Chicago airport without charges
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:53 pm to slackster
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:53 pm to slackster
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but if the dog tips it off, they're seizing it. It's ridiculous.
Legalized theft. The drug dog will probably tip off on almost any cash considering at some point it was likely used to snort some type of drug
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:55 pm to ThatMakesSense
I would go to a bank and get a cashiers check for the amount to avoid these situations
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:55 pm to NYNolaguy1
Let's be honest here. In a world of debit/credit cards, PayPal, and even bitcoin, there's simply no need to carry that much cash on one's person. Unless, of course, one is up to no good. I don't believe the insinuation in the article that the accused was just some hard-working, enterprising individual trying to make an honest dollar. And you are gullible if you do IMO.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:08 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Your idea of probable cause and LE's idea of probably cause, when there are thousands of free money at stake, are worlds apart.
Tennessee is notorious for CAF on interstates. If I recall, their "probable cause" is simply the amount of cash you have. If it's over $x, they're taking it and there's not a fricking thing you can do about it.
Back the blue though, eh?
I thought I made that pretty clear. They're going to make up PC if they need it, but technically cash alone won't get seized.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:10 pm to ThatMakesSense
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It's still stupid to carry that amount of cash
It is dumb to carry that much cash, no doubt about it, but having the government steal it shouldn't be a realistic risk.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:10 pm to slackster
The dog alerted to drugs. Something like 96% of all bills in circulation have traces of cocaine on it. frick anyone who supports CAF
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:10 pm to Lou Pai
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I don't believe the insinuation in the article that the accused was just some hard-working, enterprising individual trying to make an honest dollar.
That's the government's job to prove that claim, not the accused.
If the government is not going to charge him with a crime, that money does not belong to them and they must return it to him.
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And you are gullible if you do IMO.
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Lou Pai
Good job bootlicker.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:12 pm to Lou Pai
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Lou Pai
You call yourself a small government conservative right?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
Perhaps, one day, people will actually relearn the reasoning behind our founding fathers fear of BIG GOVERNMENT. There’s just no telling how fricking big and intrusive it’s going to have to get for them to wake the frick up.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:15 pm to Lou Pai
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Let's be honest here. In a world of debit/credit cards, PayPal, and even bitcoin, there's simply no need to carry that much cash on one's person. Unless, of course, one is up to no good.
There’s nothing wrong with believing that, but do you truly believe that the government should just be able to make that assumption? How do you reconcile it with this?
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Last March, the U.S. Justice Department Inspector General released a report saying from 2007–2016, the DEA seized $3.2 billion with zero convictions tied to this money.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:16 pm to JDogg33
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The only reason I can think of is to evade taxes.
That’s the most American thing you can do.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:19 pm to Lou Pai
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Let's be honest here. In a world of debit/credit cards, PayPal, and even bitcoin, there's simply no need to carry that much cash on one's person. Unless, of course, one is up to no good.
I actually agree with you, but it shouldn't matter. Weak arse circumstantial evidence shouldn't be enough to sieze your property.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:22 pm to NYNolaguy1
And people still think we’re a truly free country 
this is literally a slap in the face of our founding document. Along with the secret courts, FBI, CIA, NSA, et al.
frick the administrative state in this country, frick Congress for continually propping it up, and frick the DOJ for its repeated corruption.
this is literally a slap in the face of our founding document. Along with the secret courts, FBI, CIA, NSA, et al. frick the administrative state in this country, frick Congress for continually propping it up, and frick the DOJ for its repeated corruption.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:28 pm to Lou Pai
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Let's be honest here. In a world of debit/credit cards, PayPal, and even bitcoin, there's simply no need to carry that much cash on one's person. Unless, of course, one is up to no good. I don't believe the insinuation in the article that the accused was just some hard-working, enterprising individual trying to make an honest dollar. And you are gullible if you do IMO.
Great. Then go to court, prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, and confiscate it as part of sentencing.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:53 pm to NYNolaguy1
Guys, I have been telling everyone I know about the unlawful Civil Forfeiture Law. The Govt charges the money with the crime and files no charges against the person. It will cost him more to get it back.
It is essentially against the law to carry more than $10K in cash now.
It is essentially against the law to carry more than $10K in cash now.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:10 pm to GetmorewithLes
I thought a recent federal court case slapped down CAF?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:20 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.
Except when the Russians crash the electrical grid and your credit/debit card is worthless.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:36 pm to Martini
If that happens then cash will be equally worthless you idiot.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:06 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Why couldn't the man deposit the money before heading home?
Would you carry 29k in cash? Anywhere?
Ive carried 30K cash before over state line to buy equipment.
Its a stupid law plain and simple. You should be able to carry any amount of cash anywhere. Its your money not the fawkin governments.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
The only way it should be legal for agencies to keep any cash found, is
1- stolen money= bank robbery or burglary
2- drugs are found along with the money.
I dont care if someone has $500,000 on them. If neither of the 2 above occurred, they should be let go immediately along with their money. End of story. I dont give a shite if they arent paying taxes, on their way to buy a few kilos of fentanyl/heroin , or on their way to China to frick an 8 year old. They havent committed a crime to warrant the theft of the money.
1- stolen money= bank robbery or burglary
2- drugs are found along with the money.
I dont care if someone has $500,000 on them. If neither of the 2 above occurred, they should be let go immediately along with their money. End of story. I dont give a shite if they arent paying taxes, on their way to buy a few kilos of fentanyl/heroin , or on their way to China to frick an 8 year old. They havent committed a crime to warrant the theft of the money.
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