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re: Cali man has $29k siezed in Chicago airport without charges
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:18 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:18 am to NYNolaguy1
It’s disgusting seeing Americans say a person can be robbed of their money, without committing a crime. ????????????
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:38 am to Stamps74
quote:
’s disgusting seeing Americans say a person can be robbed of their money, without committing a crime. ????????????
Being anti CAF is akin to being anti tax to Americans nowadays. The government has done it's job well.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:45 am to MrLarson
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CAF is BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:02 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:You guys are both basically right.
You will have to forgive me if I think someone exercising his legal rights is a good thing, not something to be scared of.
It's the dude's right, he was doing nothing illegal. But at the same time, if $29k is that important to you, and you know the messed up CAF law, is it really a good idea to walk around with $25k? If this guy often carries lots of cash around I'd think he'd be well aware of CAF and the cops' ability to just snatch your money for no real reason.
It's legal for me to take my 2 young kids anywhere I want to any public place or street in America, but it wouldn't be the smartest decision for me to take my 2 young kids right into the heart of the gang fights in Chicago at 2am, would it?
It's basically the same thing, except it's the cops robbing you of your money and doing so legally by law.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:02 am to ThatMakesSense
quote:shite!!!!
I agree on legality. Its not out of the realm of intelligence to avoid a bad situation, as well, though.
I could drive through all through the Fifth Ward in Houston at 1 AM, but I don't.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:06 am to Hammertime
quote:Why not a check? That doesn't seem wise not even factoring in this OP topic of CAF.
I had $15k cash on me when I went to buy my current truck. It is a pretty cut and dry way to buy vehicles.
quote:Why?
Eta: I also had $20k on me after selling my last truck. The guy's bank gave me a check, and I cashed it right there
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:06 am to shel311
The difference is we dont expect LEO's to resort to being a common, trashy thief, but that's what they've become with CAF.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:09 am to shel311
quote:
Why not a check?
i have started buying goods on FB marketplace and those people won't even accept a certified check
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:To each his own.
i have started buying goods on FB marketplace and those people won't even accept a certified check
And again, i'm not even talking about CAF, if the only way for me to buy something that cost, say, $20k is for me to show up with $20k in cash, I'm probably going to pass on that for many reasons.
Just because something is legal does not make it a smart decision to go through with.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:03 am to shel311
quote:
It's the dude's right, he was doing nothing illegal. But at the same time, if $29k is that important to you, and you know the messed up CAF law, is it really a good idea to walk around with $25k? If this guy often carries lots of cash around I'd think he'd be well aware of CAF and the cops' ability to just snatch your money for no real reason.
That kind of sounds like circular logic though.
Gov’t steals money from people without needing to file any criminal charges. Some well-publicized instances lead to outrage. Therefore, it’s the next guy’s fault because he should have known better?
No! It’s the government’s fault for stealing money in the first place!
ETA:
quote:
It's legal for me to take my 2 young kids anywhere I want to any public place or street in America, but it wouldn't be the smartest decision for me to take my 2 young kids right into the heart of the gang fights in Chicago at 2am, would it?
The difference between these scenarios is that our elected officials haven’t legalized the gang fights. If the electorate holds the government accountable, we can actually do something about CAF.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:42 am to lostinbr
quote:Never said it was his fault.
Gov’t steals money from people without needing to file any criminal charges. Some well-publicized instances lead to outrage. Therefore, it’s the next guy’s fault because he should have known better?
quote:Sure but there's still something to the fact that as of now they can legally take your money with no trial, so I think the comparison is fair because it is solely pointing out that just because you're following the law or doing something legal doesn't mean it's the smartest decision you can make. Yes, you should be able to make that decision with no worries or consequences, but unfortunately, you can't.
The difference between these scenarios is that our elected officials haven’t legalized the gang fights
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:43 am to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
this is literally a slap in the face of our founding document.
quote:Our founding document had a face?
this is literally a slap in the face of our founding document.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:44 am to MrLarson
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if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.
Absolutely no.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:57 am to Tiger Ryno
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I'm fundamentally states rights, small Government,indivual. Freedom first no matter what and that's why I support asset forfeiture. Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.
Subtlety is key man. Bait's way too shiny.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:05 am to Big_Slim
I’ve had a $50K on my person to Mobile. No issues.
I’ve had $135K on my person to LA. No issues
Both times I flew. Both times the bag was scanned
I flew out of a smaller airport. Maybe that’s the difference.
I’ve had $135K on my person to LA. No issues
Both times I flew. Both times the bag was scanned
I flew out of a smaller airport. Maybe that’s the difference.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:11 am to The Goat
quote:Not even counting for CAF, this just doesn't seem like a smart decision. Unless of course it was drug money.
I’ve had a $50K on my person to Mobile. No issues.
I’ve had $135K on my person to LA. No issues
Both times I flew. Both times the bag was scanned
I flew out of a smaller airport. Maybe that’s the difference.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:17 am to NYNolaguy1
shite like this only serves to exemplify how corrupt our government can be.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:28 am to shel311
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Unless of course, it was drug money
It wasn’t drug money. But at the same time, it wasn’t my money either. Was just doing some courier work for a friend. If they had seized, only thing I would have lost was courier fee
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:40 pm to shel311
quote:
Why not a check?
I've seen this several times and I can only assume those posting it have never made a large purchase in cash before. There is a power in using a stack of cash to buy something and it is a good negotiating tool.
Maybe the car he was buying was priced at $35k. Show up and say I brought $29k in cash and let them see it and you have great negotiating power. I have a finite amount of money with me (I can make my check for a larger amount or wire more money) and they can visually see the bills and not a piece of paper.
Dave Ramsey talks about this in some of his books. I have done it and it works, although it has been smaller amounts. In DR's books, he actually talks about going to buy an investment house and putting cash that is 25% lower than asking in a briefcase (I think it was in Financial Peace Revisited where I read it). Would love to get to that point someday.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:42 pm to Esquire
quote:
Jeff Sessions
Is a clueless redneck, who should of been fired Months ago.
Instead of actually going after criminals, he's worried about the 80 year old Pot grower, growing medical mary j for war vets with PTS
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