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re: Cadillac unveils the new CT5 sports sedan

Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Such a pointless metric.


I agree Nordschleife times make sense for super and hypercars but not much for sedans. Stability in the Fox Hole and under braking at the top of the hill don't translate well to a sedan ride. Shorter, tighter, flatter tracks like the Grand Tour track translate better to American backroad performance potential.

The M5, E63, GS-F, Panamera, CTS-V, RS 5 class is loaded. Each is a different flavor of good, it just depends on your particular desires. My choice in the class is the M5 for a number of reasons but everyone has their own metrics. Those that want a bulletproof car that gives up some performance may take the Lexus, those that like melting rear tires may take the E63 or CTS-V and it goes on.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29904 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:32 pm to
Looks like a KIA Optima and a Toyota Camry made a baby.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42753 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:36 pm to
Before kids I bought my wife a black STS. Lord that car was fun to drive.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:37 pm to
Was going to say it reminds me of the Genesis in terms of the lines.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11909 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:46 pm to
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$90k for the high performance V-series version.


That’s approaching M5 territory. There’s zero comparison between an M5 and this caddy
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:10 pm to
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There’s zero comparison between an M5 and this caddy


How would you know? Did Cadillac even release information on the new V-series?

Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:12 pm to
That is fine
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:21 pm to
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Cadillac


V8 or no care.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11909 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:27 pm to
Because the M5 is the best performance sedan in its class
Posted by SteadyHand
Out and About
Member since Nov 2018
267 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:44 pm to
It’s a GM product.....in other words.....A PIECE OF CRAP.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12113 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:49 pm to
I can't imagine being from America and trying to dickride German engineering so hard. The shite he's spouting might have been true in the 70s, but now mosqt sportscars or luxury sedans are fricking exquisite. Pretty much take your pic these days. I've got an Infiniti and that bitch is SLICK BOI
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31111 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:20 pm to
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I can't imagine being from America and trying to dickride German engineering so hard. The shite he's spouting might have been true in the 70s, but now mosqt sportscars or luxury sedans are fricking exquisite


German cars still hold most of the benchmark cars. There is a reason manufacturers like Chevrolet and Acura didn't build their halo sports cars without buying a 911. The divide is not as wide as it once was but there is still a well-deserved aura around German cars.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34743 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:16 pm to
I have the CTS Coupe. I will never get rid of that car.
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
536 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:27 pm to
For that price I'll take a Lexus and it will still be on the road when the caddy is recycled and made into another car
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15302 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:06 pm to
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performance V-series version. 

Still using a Corvette v8 or a turbo 4 cylinder?

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31111 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Still using a Corvette v8 or a turbo 4 cylinder?


We don't know yet but my guess is they dump the LT4 for the 4.2-liter twin-turbo Blackwing V8 that is in the CT6-V.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:38 am to
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We don't know yet but my guess is they dump the LT4 for the 4.2-liter twin-turbo Blackwing V8 that is in the CT6-V.



Rumor is that the 3.0L twin turbo cranks out about 400 horsepower while the black wing “hot v” engine would be at or around 600 horsepower in this application (CT5).

Seems adequate for my needs.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:39 am to
IWHI
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45419 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:28 am to
Looks like a black pastor drives it.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:32 am to
Anyone know the real sticker for these cars?

It's not 45k. That's like a barebones vehicle you order.

I am guessing these will run ~50k sticker for the lowest trim. Which isnt bad.

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