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re: Cadillac unveils the new CT5 sports sedan

Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:57 am to
High performance parts wear, that’s what they do. Give me a car I have to have maintain over one with excessive body roll, mushy brakes, vague steering, and a shitty interior.
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:01 am to
meh

Really doesn't like much different then an accord sport.

Plus it's a caddy. No thanks.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26440 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:02 am to
Looks like a Nissan
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14228 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:17 am to
Looks good from the front doors forward. Rear and back looks goofy.

quote:

Cadillac’s performance sedans have been designed on the Nürburgring for several generations now.


Such a pointless metric. I know it’s the “it” thing to do in the automotive world as the ring has become the performance bench mark...just think it’s funny when companies emphasis “designed on the ring” for sedans. No body is going to track a CTS unless it’s 1/4 mile.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:30 am to
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It looks a lot like my Lexus GS F-Sport.


Lexus has been rumored to cancel that model. Their first and second best selling model are the RX350 (Toyota Highlander) and NX300 (Rav4). People don't care about performance anymore.

Cadillac did a great job with the CT5, and their performance sedans are excellent. I would certainly buy a Cadillac V series, Lexus F Sport, or BMW M5. That's just not where the market is going though.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Really doesn't like much different then an accord sport.



It's nothing like the Accord.

For starters, the dash to axle ratio on cars like the Cadillac CT5, Jaguar XJ, Infiniti Q50, and BMW 5 series can't be matched by any front drive car. You can't make a front drive family sled like a Taurus or Accord look like a rear drive performance sedan. Mazda does a decent job, but there are limitations with what can be done with that type of chassis.

Lincoln, Buick, and Acura don't focus very much on performance. Their cars are based on front drive platforms that can't handle very much power without negatively impacting handling. They also look the part with massive front overhangs and "economy car" proportions. They aren't bad vehicles by any stretch, but they aren't performance products. There's a lot more headroom for Cadillac, Lexus, and Mercedes to offer these performance cars since their pricing tends to be much higher.

Cadillac, Mercedes, and BMW have invested in rear drive architecture for their sedans for more balanced handling and the ability to put down extreme amounts of power without impacting the handling. An added benefit is the good proportions and a reasonable dash to axle ratio. All of those brands have performance models that can't be matched by any front drive competitor.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Lexus has been rumored to cancel that model. Their first and second best selling model are the RX350 (Toyota Highlander) and NX300 (Rav4). People don't care about performance anymore.


GS is more than likely going away but they are putting more resources and emphasis on the F series lineup including F-Sport models.

The rumored IS-F will use the LS TTV6 motor.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

GS is more than likely going away but they are putting more resources and emphasis on the F series lineup including F-Sport models.

The rumored IS-F will use the LS TTV6 motor.


Good to hear! I love everything about the new Lexus LS except the front end styling.

I'd like to see the IS updated soon. I've always liked them, especially the first gen with the I-6 motor.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:41 am to
Really interested to see what the LC-F looks like.

Will go against the 8 series.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138831 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:45 am to
Ray Donovan drove one this past season
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26440 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:36 am to
Cadillac


Nissan
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:41 am to
Cars look different to me bud.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:46 am to
German cars are for people who actually like to drive and can afford the superior experience. Posers are quickly filtered-out by repair costs. Ballers who like to drive superior cars can afford the repairs.

There’s German luxury, and then there’s everything else.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

German cars are for people who actually like to drive and can afford the superior experience. Posers are quickly filtered-out by repair costs. Ballers who like to drive superior cars can afford the repairs.

There’s German luxury, and then there’s everything else.


Ladies and gentleman, your BMW snob.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:58 am to
that side profile is a complete ripoff of the Genesis



Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:59 am to
Now that looks comparable
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103798 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

the end of the day it’s still a GM product that will ultimately fall short of the German competition.


I don’t know my mom has a BMW and my gf has a new Cadillac and I much prefer the caddy.

Cadillac and Buick always have been the best GM products
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103798 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

saw so many Caddies in Detroit and Chicago and I've only seen 2 in Portland in like 8 months. I never realized until now how vastly different geographic regions are with cars.


That’s because Portland is full of anti American commies
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4957 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:20 pm to
Probably will be my next ride. I’ll wait two years and let’s someone else take the depreciation hit.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51408 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:29 pm to
Looks Korean.
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