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Buying a house with foundation issues

Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:17 pm
So I'm still at the point where I can push the eject button. House was built in the early 80's, sits on clay soil. Has had piers installed in the past but still has a pretty drastic slope. Olshan has the lifetime warranty and could come out and do an adjustment.

We love the house, it's on a lake, has character and we could make it our forever home, but I don't want to get myself into a money pit. Engineer says it's structurally sound. Any advice and experiences both good and bad are appreciated.

I've been told don't let foundation problems scare you away and I've been told the opposite.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:18 pm to
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Buying a house with foundation issues


Don’t
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:20 pm to
Be afraid be very afraid.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:21 pm to
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Don't buy a house with foundation issues


FIFY

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:21 pm to
Get Olshan to honor the lifetime warranty before you buy.

If they don’t honor it, demand an offsetting price commensurate with the rate to repair.

If I knew then what I know now, I would have preferred a home that had foundation work. There will be less competition among buyers due to irrational fears, and more room to bargain downward.

I’m currently living in a home that had foundation work about 10 years ago. The results are spectacular.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:23 pm to
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We love the house, it's on a lake

Soon to be in the lake
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has character

i.e. it's old
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we could make it our forever home

Says everyone who buys a house
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but I don't want to get myself into a money pit.

You're going to
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Engineer says it's structurally sound.

Then does it have foundation issues or not?
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I've been told don't let foundation problems scare you away and I've been told the opposite.


Some people are lucky with such issues and some are very unfortunate. It's a roll of the dice. If you want to gamble with your finances and your "forever home" then go for it. I wouldn't.

Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:25 pm to
"issues" is very vague. Are there more details?

If it's under warranty, what are the money pit worries?

My greatest concern would be ability to resell later.
Posted by MetryMojo
Metairie, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:31 pm to
Honestly the most important thing IS the foundation.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:31 pm to
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Has had piers installed in the past but still has a pretty drastic slope. Olshan has the lifetime warranty and could come out and do an adjustment.


Why didn't the seller call up Olshan to fix the drastic slope prior to listing for sale?

Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:32 pm to
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Says everyone who buys a house


3rd house. Have an autistic child who will be most likely living with us the rest of his life. It's an ideal setup for our situation.

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Engineer says it's structurally sound.


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Then does it have foundation issues or not?


That was a quote straight from his mouth. I dunno they're so damn ambiguous and won't say anything with any certainty. Probably because they can't be certain. That was the most definitive statement he made. But he did recommend Olshan do the adjustment.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:34 pm to
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Why didn't the seller call up Olshan to fix the drastic slope prior to listing for sale?


Good question.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:38 pm to
Who is olshan
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:43 pm to
I would ask it. It's possible the current slope in the foundation is in an area of the home that previously wasn't worked on by Olshan thus not covered by the lifetime warranty. If I made an offer on the house it would be under the assumption that there is no warranty for any future foundation repairs and offer accordingly.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:48 pm to
What does “pretty drastic slope” mean? Is there differential settlement?

ETA:

Send me pics and I will give you an assessment tomorrow. <===@gmail.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
7133 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:54 pm to
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What does “pretty drastic slope” mean? Is there differential settlement?


Yep. +3" on the SW side and -3" on the NE side. Total of 6" on a 2100 SF house.

Engineer said they could probably get it to within 3" with adjustment.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:55 pm to
Ask for the soils report. I’ll review if you want me to. I am a Geotech.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
7133 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:58 pm to
Thanks for the help. I'll email you what I have tomorrow morning.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:58 pm to
Basically, the subsoils are compressing under the weight of the home. I would bet the builder didn’t place the fill material to any spec. The drilled piers would need to bypass the fill and anchor into residual soil that is stable. That’s about all I can tell you minus looking at the report.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
7133 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:02 am to
I have been told that builders weren't required to do soil tests back then. We are definitely in the Yazoo Clay in this area.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:18 am to
I got my start in the construction industry doing soil testing and working within a geotech department. Even with modern testing requirements, depending where you're at, you can still end up with subpar work.


Au sounds like the right man to talk to. Hopefully you can access the original boring logs.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:33 am
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