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re: Businesses that are saying F the rules

Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37333 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Yes, because me wanting to go back to work is exactly the same as me not wanting illegal immigrants to increase the burden on our social systems and other resources.


Gotcha, so the scale to which measuring breaking a law, is the impact it has on social systems?

Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:12 pm to
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Gotcha, so the scale to which measuring breaking a law, is the impact it has on social systems?



Laws literally exist to uphold the social contract.

Yes they should be rated on impact to social systems. By definition.
Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:15 pm to
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But when the state says a bar can't have in-bar service, and there are 50 cars in the parking lot, and the door constantly opening and closing and people drinking at the bar, and no one enforces the rules, it's a slap in the face to the bar down the street who is abiding by the rules.



I think you should forfeit up your money to repay the lost earnings of the bar owners...do you think thats fair?
Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:18 pm to
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I'm worried if we don't, we're going to start pushing this into football season.


Quite the opposite. The longer the social distancing, the more drawn out the pandemic will last. Its very simple math
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2664 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
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Fair enough, so should I say, "rule followers finish last"?


Yes, but I would phrase it as "blindly following stupid rules will cause yu to finish last". I no longer think this was about the virus. Well, maybe at first. But despite the facts we have learned about the virus, it has become abundantly clear that the academics, media, and Dems wish for the devastating economic effects to continue as long as possible. They can kiss my arse. This is hurting ALOT of good people on both sides of the political spectrum.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2010 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:32 pm to
Re: section 361

This seems to pertain to people infected or believed to be infected. Not the entirety of humanity.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15145 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:33 pm to
Maybe the bar down the street shouldn’t act like a pussy.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56947 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm torn here. I think these closures have well outlived their usefulness (if there was any at all) and we need to start opening things back up, quicker and sooner.

But when some businesses have decided the rules don't apply to them


rules?

quote:

We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules, and if you don't like the rules, then fight like hell to change them.



It should not be expected that laws that steal constitutional freedom and that have a significant immediate impact are simply ignored. This isn't a case where getting a judgement in 6 months satisfies the necessary outcome.

People need to make a living. Despite you not realizing it, your desire to have "people follow the rules" isn't more important than their desire to stay solvent.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:50 pm to
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So it’s a principled stand against laws you don’t like.

I like that philosophy. I’m going to practice that myself.



You act like it's a novel philosophy. We've seen the philosophy of disobedience against bad laws iterated upon ad naseum throughout human history. Something being legal and something being morally acceptable are not implicitly intertwined, and that should be kind of obvious when things like slavery and genocide have in the past been legalized and even endorsed by governments.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:58 pm to
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We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules


Did you report your Jewish neighbors to the Nazis yet?
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
2789 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:24 pm to
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Lima
Take what you just said and add in your livelihood.

That’s why people are saying f the rules

People bought in because the media told us 2 million people could die.

“Yeah but it’s still dangerous!!” Coming from the same people that tell me a woman can now have a dick and that fetuses aren’t human.

Except the numbers say otherwise.
It’s relatively more severe than the normal flu.

And we shut down the economy and have Great Depression unemployment numbers

That’s why people are saying f the rules.


Meh, I knew this was BS from day one. This played out exactly how I thought. The government got exactly what they wanted. Unfortunately, critical thinking is as scarce as toilet paper was in March. So the blind sheep follow into the slaughterer.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37333 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:39 pm to
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Did you report your Jewish neighbors to the Nazis yet?


So we equate murder with going to the bar?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:47 pm to
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So we equate murder with going to the bar?


Murder? No murder. Just report them to the proper authorities.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5895 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:54 pm to
I wish I could give you more than one upvote. So true
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28636 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:55 pm to
Have another downvote.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:16 pm to
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We should, as a society, encourage people to follow the rules


I assume I can look up your post history and find similar pleas for actual laws: murder, theft, embezzlement, cocaine, marijuana, speeding, drunk driving, etc etc etc? You do believe actual laws should be followed vs rules pulled out of someones arse during a "pandemic"?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:00 pm to
gin and tonic kills Covid 19
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11283 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:04 pm to
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if you don't like the rules, then fight like hell to change them.



I must have missed that day of civics class that covered how the government can shut down businesses nationwide without even a vote.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 6:05 pm
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