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re: Buckle Up Women: Uncle Sam Wants To Draft YOU!!

Posted on 3/25/20 at 10:58 am to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 10:58 am to
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What happens if we become embroiled in a major war requiring a draft?
If your war can't generate the numbers that you need just by having people enlist, then you need to take a long, hard look at the reason why you're fighting.



Except that the two wars with the strongest moral causes in American history - and the most directly existential - both required extensive and stringently-enforced drafts.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:17 am to
This was coming.
All it requires is that they sign up with selective service if a draft is ever put in place in the future.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74661 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:21 am to
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Do we need large man power anymore though? Any serious war would be between nuclear powers which hopefully will never happen. Either that or some proxy war like Vietnam which would likely be highly unpopular and ultimately not directly important to the US.


Never say never. In the late 19th & early 20th Century the general consensus was another large scale general war in Europe in living multiple major alliances would never happen again. Then in 1914 it happened.

In the 20s-30s many thought the advent of air power meant large scale ground campaigns were a thing of the past. Then WWII happened.

And just because another war on that scale hasn’t happened in decades doesn’t mean it won’t happen again. Remember, Europe went a century between the Napoleonic Wars and WWI.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41888 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Do we need large man power anymore though? Any serious war would be between nuclear powers which hopefully will never happen.


Are you 100% certain? Willing to gamble our country's existence on that? And that's a pretty dangerous "hopefully".
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Are you 100% certain? Willing to gamble our country's existence on that? And that's a pretty dangerous "hopefully".

That was in regards to hoping nuclear war never happens. That’s why I brought up nuclear powers. A war between nuclear powers like US vs China/Russia wouldn’t be a ground battle.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:55 pm to
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Never say never. In the late 19th & early 20th Century the general consensus was another large scale general war in Europe in living multiple major alliances would never happen again. Then in 1914 it happened.

In the 20s-30s many thought the advent of air power meant large scale ground campaigns were a thing of the past. Then WWII happened.

And just because another war on that scale hasn’t happened in decades doesn’t mean it won’t happen again. Remember, Europe went a century between the Napoleonic Wars and WWI.


Here’s the thing. Nuclear weapons weren’t possessed by more than 1 country in any of those time periods you brought up. Nukes are the reason we didn’t have a WWIII with the Soviets. Now we came close on a few occasions but that war would’ve been a short nuclear one with no actual ground battles.

I’m saying if we ever get into an actual war (not some BS proxy war like Vietnam or the Middle East), it would be versus a power like China or Russia. We all have nukes. There’s zero point in deploying troops to try to kill each other when you have hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons that can do it just as easily.
Posted by TheUltraSharkMan
Member since Mar 2020
56 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:57 pm to
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As for this plan to make women register for the draft, here’s my thoughts. Either women are equal or they’re not. And being equal means you’re equal all the time or none of the time, not just when it benefits you.


My thoughts exactly. Equality means you get the good and bad. So many women just want to have their cake and eat it too. It's time for women to truly realize than being a man isn't all fun and games like they think it is.
Posted by TheUltraSharkMan
Member since Mar 2020
56 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:59 pm to
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They’ll make women register for the draft just so they can say it’s equal, but if WWIII comes and they start drafting people, it’s still gonna be mostly men who get drafted and will do the fighting.

I bet it’s another case of women having their cake and eating it too. It will be fake equality.


If they ever tried to do this you would see lawsuits everywhere. I know I would if I was still of military draft age.

If a military draft ever does happen again (it's academic since it won't) and they try to do this I hope every guy refuses to report. It would be funny if every guy just got sent to jail and then the women would really have to fight.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17804 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:02 pm to
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The panel should recommend getting rid of the draft.


Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30081 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:04 pm to
Equal rights shite and all you know
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41888 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:06 pm to
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A war between nuclear powers like US vs China/Russia wouldn’t be a ground battle.


Again, how do you know?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29900 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:14 pm to
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Remember, Europe went a century between the Napoleonic Wars and WWI.


The Franco-Prussian War says hello.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29900 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:15 pm to
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My son doesn’t have a SS number. No, I don’t claim him on my taxes. Yes, you can get a passport, he has one.

I didn’t want to make a financial choice for him that he can’t get out of.


You don't care if he ever has a job or bank account?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70472 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:19 pm to
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You don't care if he ever has a job


you can get a tax ID number

Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:20 pm to
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Again, how do you know?



Because that’s the whole reason nukes exist. All those countries are first strike countries.

So you’re telling me the USA, Russia, and/or China will all mutually agree to not use nukes and instead destroy each other by spending several weeks to months drafting and doing all out mobilization? By that logic why do any countries have nukes if they’re not going to use them if they’re attacked?

Also I mentioned nukes but there’s plenty of other tech we have right now that could supersede having a large army. Like missiles and drones that didn’t exist in WW2.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:20 pm to
Feminists ruin everything.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:21 pm to
Correct. And people today aren't dumb enough to enter a draft, so it will never happen.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:21 pm to
This is seldom discussed: a lot women didn’t originally want the right to vote because it mean signing up for the draft. We got Equal rights out of it though!!!
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29900 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:27 pm to
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you can get a tax ID number


An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85575 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:29 pm to
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We haven’t drafted anyone since 1973. Only time it would come back is in case of WWIII, so never.

Darth, you’ve forgotten more about the military and military history than I’ll ever know and I’m not being sarcastic. But your statement here is one I hear often whenever the subject comes up. As a history buff, you know we can’t assume something will “never” happen just bc it’s unlikely. Yes, the nature of war has changed and politics would make it hard for the draft to happen, but the draft rolls are still there for a reason. It is hard to foresee, but if the country is around long enough then it’s still a real possibility.
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