re: Buckle Up Women: Uncle Sam Wants To Draft YOU!!

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As for this plan to make women register for the draft, here’s my thoughts. Either women are equal or they’re not. And being equal means you’re equal all the time or none of the time, not just when it benefits you.

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First, there are lots of logistics jobs that women are just as suited to as men.

There are some exceptional women that are better fit for duty than a lot of average men.

I went through EOBC, AOBC and jump school with some serious high-speed low-drag women.

There were no women when I went through Ranger and Sapper schools. There are women now that have the right to wear both those tabs. Any human that completes either course has my respect the attrition rate for both schools is significant.

While I don't think they should have ground combat roles there certainly are plenty of rear-echelon jobs they can perform just as well as men. So have the sign up for the draft since it frees up more males for the ground combat roles.

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Was just messing with you. I would say the various revolutions in 1848 were more impactful overall than the Franco-Prussian war.

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Now this is a subject that would make a great debate.

On the one hand you’ve got the 1848 Revolutions where not much changed short term, you did have the seed planted that would grow into republicanism, socialism, and even communism later on.

On the other hand you’ve got the Franco-Prussian war that:

1. Unified Germany into an Empire
2. Planted the seeds of WWI to happen a little over 40 years later.

Which when you consider the transformative upheaval WWI has on the world, I consider it the pivotal event of the past 500 years, that opens up a whole other can of worms to discuss.

*sorry, I’ve been cooped up almost two weeks and my nerd senses are tingling*

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While I don't think they should have ground combat roles there certainly are plenty of rear-echelon jobs they can perform just as well as men. So have the sign up for the draft since it frees up more males for the ground combat roles.

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Screw that. I'm tired of men being the ones who are expected to take the more dangerous jobs, whether it's in the military or the civilian sector.

I want women to have to sign up for the draft and I want women on the ground in combat roles. I'm tired of this country seeing men as disposable and woman as untouchable goddesses.

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So you're telling me the Soviets and NATO both kept large armored and infantry formations in Europe while mutually possessing large nuclear forces during the entirety of the Cold War just for the hell of it?

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It also serves as a deterrent and show of force. Especially since they essentially bordered the Soviets. But these countries weren’t implementing drafts to maintain the largest armies they could possibly maintain. I’m not saying we should significantly decrease our military.

Once again I ask you, do you think in an event of a war with Russia or China all sides would just mutually agree to not use nukes? And instead spend time drafting and mobilizing to fight a long war? The whole reason all 3 have nukes and are first strike countries is to deter war from happening because otherwise it’s MAD.

If you feel things are desperate enough to call upon a draft, why wouldn’t you not use your most powerful weapons? You’re essentially saying a WW3 might not involve nukes even they still exist.

You have any idea how long a draft would take? It’s not one week. You’d have to do the draft, find out who’s fit enough, train them, equip them (and other logistics), and deploy. The kind of conflicts you described wouldn’t last months.

Hell China themselves would probably invade NK to stop them. Paint themselves as the hero while preventing American forces from getting in. Your other scenario isn’t even less realistic. It would mean American soldiers being directly attacked so yes nukes. Because once again first strike country. That’s why we have nukes. But you think they’d call up draft and fight a long drawn out war.

Neither of your scenarios are realistic in the slightest. American forces are stationed as deterrent. No way China is going to throw everything away and be attacked by the entire West for nothing. And no way a WW3 doesn’t have involve nukes and instead is a drawn out war.

Also once again military tech has made having a large army not as necessary. You’re not facing insurgents hiding amongst the population. You can use your missiles and drones to destroy everything in site.

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Also once again military tech has made having a large army not as necessary. You’re not facing insurgents hiding amongst the population. You can use your missiles and drones to destroy everything in site.

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for whatever its worth the war between Ukraine and Russia has shown us that the tech stuff only goes so far. In that war it basically cancelled itself out. The Ukrainian air force was shot out of the sky but the RAF couldn't really do anything either. Most people in the west haven't paid much attention to it but that war has devolved into a stalemate complete with trenches. I read that close to eighty percent of the casualties are from artillery. The 2 sides just face each other down and shell one another constantly, with occasional shock troop raids. The tech on each side negates the tech on the other.

Also, in Libya in 2011 and for the Israelis in 1973 it was amazing how fast the high tech stuff ran out.In both cases the Euros (for Libya) and the Israelis (in 73) needed us to give them emergency supplies.

I largely agree with you but I'm just not as certain. I could see a war between large countries not going nuclear. China trying to take Taiwan as an example.

Also, not completely related but the reason we haven't had to face the draft possibility is because the wars were fighting have thankfully included few casualties. Granted battlefield medicine is much better but in 65 we had about 100k guys in Vietnam and took about 2500 KIA. If that happened today it would put a massive burden on the army and the marines and we might not have been able to stay. We'd either have a draft, leave, or just keep plodding along while our infantry units took fifty percent casualties. It'd be a nightmare.