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Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:54 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
How come after everything had been explained the cop still had him pinned down and wanted to know "you got anything on ya?" Power trip plain and simple.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:10 pm to TigersSEC2010
The kid is lucky it ended the way it did, there have been over a dozen instances just this year where a person with a medical condition or mental illness was shot by police because they didn't understand what was going on and didn't obey their commands.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:13 pm to TigersSEC2010
Does it look bad? Yes, but the cop sees a kid he thinks could possibly be using drugs. He approaches the kid, who is resisting and seems to not be acting "normal". Its not like the police will assume, without being educated "maybe he is autistic".
It's not like the police said "look at that autistic kid, I am going to go mess with him". We all make mistakes at our job, but the difference for police is... That when they make a mistake, it usually affects someone.
The policeman should have let the kid go when he learned he was autistic, but maybe it is procedure to call another unit to come to the scene as a checks and balance.
It's not like the police said "look at that autistic kid, I am going to go mess with him". We all make mistakes at our job, but the difference for police is... That when they make a mistake, it usually affects someone.
The policeman should have let the kid go when he learned he was autistic, but maybe it is procedure to call another unit to come to the scene as a checks and balance.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:15 pm to TigersSEC2010
Nvm
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:20 pm to Raylan70
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Unfortunate misunderstanding, but a pretty good outcome.
The cop didn't shoot anyone.
Come on now... thats a pretty low expectation of the boys in blue. Do you always think so low of what they do?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:30 pm to NYNolaguy1
Well hey, at least the cop didn't force the autistic kid to leave and then tell the guardian that he wanted a ten minute girlfriend and then have his buddy's post lookout while he raped her.
You never give credit to the cops when they don't kidnap and rape people, how about a "good job"?
You never give credit to the cops when they don't kidnap and rape people, how about a "good job"?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:34 pm to TigersSEC2010
That is a terrible situation.
The cop is 100% in the wrong. No doubt about it.
Fortunately for the cop, the kid is a calm and highly verbal Autistic boy. I have seen tons of nonverbal and aggressive kids with Autism and the cop probably would have tasered them for stimming with a string in their hands.
I can't believe any cop in 2017 would not know about Autism or kids with low IQ's. Wow that is really bad.
The cop is 100% in the wrong. No doubt about it.
Fortunately for the cop, the kid is a calm and highly verbal Autistic boy. I have seen tons of nonverbal and aggressive kids with Autism and the cop probably would have tasered them for stimming with a string in their hands.
I can't believe any cop in 2017 would not know about Autism or kids with low IQ's. Wow that is really bad.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:44 pm to OweO
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The policeman should have let the kid go when he learned he was autistic
This is where I have an issue with the office. He should of been able to tell that the kid was clearly on the spectrum, but I guess we can blame that on his ignorance. But as soon as the officer was told the child was autistic, he should of gotten off immediately. Instead he keeps the kid pinned down. Props to his aunt for keeping calm. If that was my son, I would of lost my shite.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:45 pm to CCTider
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Cops need to be trained
That is the response every time something happens.
So let's get this straight. Cops should be:
Wyatt Earp gunfighters
Bruce Lee hand to hand fighters
Dr. Phil marriage counselors
Phd level experts on all mental illnesses for instant field diagnosis
NASCAR level drivers
Drug experts
Rape counselors
Social workers
First aid and CPR caregivers
Etc
Etc
All for $40k a year with a HS education. Oh, and because we don't want to fund more than one or two cops per thousands of citizens, we can only provide 40-60 hours of training a year and 16 weeks of initial training.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:00 pm to TigersSEC2010
The cop is a typical ignorant, double negative using piece of trash
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:09 pm to jbgleason
Not at all. I just want them to use common sense instead of immediately jumping to the conclusions that everyone is up to no good. I also want them to be trained in ways to de-escalate situations better.
People tend to calm down and/or act alot more rationally when they are spoken to instead of accused of wrongdoing right away.
People tend to calm down and/or act alot more rationally when they are spoken to instead of accused of wrongdoing right away.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:12 pm to JOHNN
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People tend to calm down and/or act alot more rationally when they are spoken to instead of accused of wrongdoing right away.
What? You don't find it calming and reassuring when a stranger who hasn't identified themselves starts screaming orders at you to put you into a vulnerable position?
Cause most people do fine in that situation.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:13 pm to ChatRabbit77
autism does not equal mental retardation or intellectual disability
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:19 pm to ChatRabbit77
autism is a nervous system disorder that can impair a child's ability to socially interact or recognize socially appropriate social norms or rules, repetitive behaviors that can be observed to calm a child down or certain things such as water.
autism is different for different children, and is on a spectrum. some children have more severe forms while others may only be slightly impaired. several children need a large amount of vestibular input such as spinning on a large tire or swing, some will cover their ears at times for loud or sudden changes in noises. some will only eat foods of a certain texture or color and would prefer that colors do not mix. some may not make appropriate eye contact.
autism rates have increased but at the same time disorders such as Asberger's syndome is now considered a form of ASD.
there are typically no distinct or obvious physical characteristics that can be observed for ASD.
Please educate yourself on the difference between the two. Keep in mind it is possible for someone to have both diagnoses
autism is different for different children, and is on a spectrum. some children have more severe forms while others may only be slightly impaired. several children need a large amount of vestibular input such as spinning on a large tire or swing, some will cover their ears at times for loud or sudden changes in noises. some will only eat foods of a certain texture or color and would prefer that colors do not mix. some may not make appropriate eye contact.
autism rates have increased but at the same time disorders such as Asberger's syndome is now considered a form of ASD.
there are typically no distinct or obvious physical characteristics that can be observed for ASD.
Please educate yourself on the difference between the two. Keep in mind it is possible for someone to have both diagnoses
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:19 pm to jbgleason
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Wyatt Earp gunfighters
Bruce Lee hand to hand fighters
Dr. Phil marriage counselors
Phd level experts on all mental illnesses for instant field diagnosis
NASCAR level drivers
Drug experts
Rape counselors
Social workers
First aid and CPR caregivers
Maybe it's time to cut like half of these services so they can focus on real crime, rather than collecting taxes and fundraising from the war on drugs.
I mean what does it say about the average popo when he thinks an autistic kid is committing a crime?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:21 pm to SECdragonmaster
this is true
some kids with autism can be very aggressive and nonverbal, this is where finding coping mechanisms come into play for these children
some kids with autism can be very aggressive and nonverbal, this is where finding coping mechanisms come into play for these children
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:22 pm to OweO
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Does it look bad? Yes, but the cop sees a kid he thinks could possibly be using drugs.
This is where the cop makes his first mistake, and he is not the first.
The police can't detain someone without probably cause, and it is not a crime to be autistic in public. That office should have been more patient and observed the subject until he actually, oh I don't know, witnessed a crime. Instead, he saw something he didn't understand and rushed in to assert his authority.
That kid was never once a threat to others and not everyone is going to stay calm when confronted by police for no good reason. Especially when it comes to children and strangers, on any spectrum.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:28 pm to CWS91
"Autism so common in today's world"
The measure of autism rates is all over the place. I doubt the figures that are given are accurate at all. Autism is being over diagnosed just like ADHD.
No disrespect to your child or family of course.
Also, the cop to me didn't seem like he was really all that bad. I'm not sjw but plenty worse videos are shown here of women, drunks, and blacks getting taken down and no one says boo. OT is getting soft.
The measure of autism rates is all over the place. I doubt the figures that are given are accurate at all. Autism is being over diagnosed just like ADHD.
No disrespect to your child or family of course.
Also, the cop to me didn't seem like he was really all that bad. I'm not sjw but plenty worse videos are shown here of women, drunks, and blacks getting taken down and no one says boo. OT is getting soft.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:33 pm to Tigers0891
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The measure of autism rates is all over the place. I doubt the figures that are given are accurate at all. Autism is being over diagnosed just like ADHD.
This is a BS talking point that just keeps getting parroted around by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Read lsucoonass's post which describes it perfectly. It is a spectrum...which means many, many different forms of this condition fit the definition and that is why it seems the rates are going up...which they are. Just because it hasn't touched your life doesn't make it untrue.
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