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re: BRAF wants a tax to pay for City Park Lakes restoration.

Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:52 am to
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My kids will graduate from school in 5 years. Once they graduate, I guess I should vote down every school funding request/extension due to the fact I no longer need quality schools for my kids.


I do. I went to private school and so will my kids.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1540 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:58 am to
The Lakes plan is a great plan. I went the other night to for the meeting they had. I don't think it is overly ambitious at all. They cut out most of the fluff from the project and concentrated on water quality and trails. I would gladly pay a tax to support it but I don't think they will need one.

Imagining the lakes area with a children's museum and potentially a zoo(one can dream) that is next to LSU and connected to most of the city by bike trails is a game changing idea for Baton Rouge.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:16 am to
They're currently building the Knock Knock Children's Museum on Dalrymple across from the lakes.

They're doing the ground work now

This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 11:17 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:23 am to
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no they don't



Purely anecdotal, but my wife walks the lakes with a friend that lives in Central. I'm certain she isn't the only one. My boss lives clear across town and rides his bike to the lakes and does a few loops then returns back to his home as well.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 11:24 am
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14989 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:58 am to
I personally believe BREC has way to much money for the return we get.. I also live a block from the lakes and want the project to go forward efficiently and without haste.. This require the funds to be ready and dedicated so basically I'm caught between something I know needs to done, something I want done and my distaste for the direction and hoarding that takes place at BREC.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3733 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:21 pm to
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They're currently building the Knock Knock Children's Museum on Dalrymple across from the lakes.



This is going to be a huge draw for the area. The private funding going into this is insane. One area of the place (and there are supposed to be 10-12 or so) has a private donation of almost $1 million. Just for one specific area.

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Why in the hell would I care about whether someone else can afford books? Why should I be forced to pay for it? Communism creeps in more all the time and you jerks applaud it.


It's called community enrichment. Ever thought that it might be useful to invest in everyone's future to make the area you live in stronger?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43096 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:31 pm to
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It's called community enrichment. Ever thought that it might be useful to invest in everyone's future to make the area you live in stronger?


And I'm for that 1000%.

I play golf at a private club, I don't use BREC, my kids are all grown, so schools are not a problem, and I do not frequent the libraries like I once did.

But I do believe a rising tide lifts all boats. A great park system, clean lakes, good schools and libraries is beneficial for all of us.

I do agree that BREC flies under the radar. I don't think there is much accountability. I've played their golf courses, used their ball fields, played on their soccer fields and know other than cut the grass they weren't doing a whole lot.

I suspect there is little accountability with the library system either. Sure I see nice, new libraries going up; but I'm not sure how well they are run, etc. But honestly I have no idea, but I'm apprehensive about govt.

Ideally we would have enough money for everything. All the projects listed have value, but my thoughts were are they asking for too much right now? Can we do all this? And if we can't which are the most important projects?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46010 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:41 pm to
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Can you imagine what a great centerpiece the city would have right there with the Children's Museum, lakes project, and a new zoo? The biggest issue would be finding room for a parking garage, because that is going to be one popular attraction.



There is a rundown apartment complex right across from the city parks golf course that could be bought and torn down for a parking garage.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43096 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:49 pm to
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There is a rundown apartment complex right across from the city parks golf course that could be bought and torn down for a parking garage.


Unfortunately that area can't support a lot of traffic.

For one thing not having an Eastbound entrance ramp to I-10 off Dalrymple is bad.

Second thing Park Blvd., Morning Glory, Broussard,Perkins and even Dalrymple itself is undersized for what's really needed.

One good thing there is somewhat of a grid system north and east of City Park, but the streets are all two lane.

Some kind of planning and street upgrade is needed before that area can support a larger volume of people. Right now it's best for mostly the neighborhood crowd and LSU, but with the museum coming along, and possibly a zoo; something has to be done to help out traffic.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3350 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:54 pm to
With the cash that BREC is sitting on,we shouldn't even be considering this. Another reason I'm leaving this parish. I get the importance of the LSU lakes, but to tax people who don't live within 15-20 miles of it would be asinine.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43096 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:58 pm to
BREC has a pile of cash and the ability to get matching funds for water projects from the Feds.
They should be pursuing this now.

The state already gave them seed money so that has been taken care of.

I would not support a tax for those reasons.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Grit-Eating Shin
quote:

People who bitch about public funding for libraries should never bitch about an increasingly ignorant society.


I bitch about how they spend their money and how they could best put that money to use. I didn't bitch about the funding for them.

I want to use funds for something like this in a way that touches as many people as possible and enriches as much as possible.

There is absolutely zero wrong with having a discussion about the best use for the funds the BR Library System gets. Which is what I thought we were doing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43096 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:10 pm to
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There is absolutely zero wrong with having a discussion about the best use for the funds the BR Library System gets. Which is what I thought we were doing.


A lot of the problem is people blindly vote for park taxes, or library taxes just because they want good parks and libraries and really do not know if the money is needed or is spent wisely.

A conversation about taking care of public funds and keeping the public trust is never a bad thing.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131110 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:11 pm to
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but to tax people who don't live within 15-20 miles of it would be asinine.

Most people in the parish aren't even 10 miles from the lakes.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43096 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:14 pm to
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Most people in the parish aren't even 10 miles from the lakes


I'm 10 miles or more from the zoo, and I pay taxes for the zoo and all of BREC and I have no problem at all with doing that.

Everything can't be in your neighborhood.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46010 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Grit-Eating Shin
quote:
People who bitch about public funding for libraries should never bitch about an increasingly ignorant society.


I bitch about how they spend their money and how they could best put that money to use. I didn't bitch about the funding for them.

I want to use funds for something like this in a way that touches as many people as possible and enriches as much as possible.


You better not be talking about the children's museum.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80847 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:25 pm to
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BR is only 20yrs out from being a decent place to live


So you plan nuking all of north BR ?
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3350 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:50 pm to
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Most people in the parish aren't even 10 miles from the lakes.


So then let "most people in the parish" pay for it. Most of the unincorporated area, Central, and Zachary don't benefit from it so let the city proper pay for it if they want it... or like I already said, use existing BREC cash coffers.
Posted by terriblegreen
Spokane, LA
Member since Aug 2011
12486 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:59 pm to
Good Lord there are a lot of cry babies on this board. The lakes are awesome. I live a block from City Park and see first hand that it is utilized daily by thousands of people from every demographic and walk of life. The lakes and parks associated with the lakes are probably the single most used BREC property... hands down.
A tax to support this won't kill anyone. If you hate it and don't want it, move out or deal with it because I have a feeling it's going to pass.
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