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re: BR Metro Council Funds $300,000 “Disparity” Study of City Contracts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:55 am to BRgetthenet
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:55 am to BRgetthenet
I left BR last year and dont plan on returning
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 6:30 am to Four Leaf Tayback
quote:IMO, even that's an understatement. She personifies the highest level of incompetence and only looks at one's race for staffing and policies. It's a damn shame this woman got elected. And I'm not saying that because she's a minority female leader. I'm saying that because she's just dumb as shite and has an intellect rivaled only by garden tools.
Agreed. Broome really is the worst.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Being a consultant who does studies for government must be the most lucrative profession in Louisiana
I'm proposing to the council a study as to why we have so many studies
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:22 am to TigersSEC2010
Why does this cost 300k?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:28 am to TigersSEC2010
quote:
Slightly more than 9 percent of City Hall's 1,115 purchase orders in 2016 went to small and minority-owned businesses, said Chief Administrative Officer Darryl Gissel. Nearly half of the East Baton Rouge Parish population is black, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's 2016 figures.
That's a meaningless comparison. How many local businesses are owned by minorities?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:37 am to TigersSEC2010
this could backfire by explaining exactly why there is a discrepancy (and it likely won't be racism)
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:37 am to CharlesLSU
Typical DBE project results: Other contractors on the job take up the slack or work around the incompetent DBE who got the job based primarily on pigment.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:43 am to TigersSEC2010
1-"consulting" for governmental agencies is one of the biggest frauds around. Any citizen can obtain this information by filling out the paperwork, and paying a small fee for "printing". yes, that is correct. Why $300K?
2-I also would like to know how many options would be left if the parish/city had to buy from a minority owned business. Not many. "Sole specifying" is also illegal by Public Bid Law in LA. Even though there are ways around this.
3-Stating a minimum % minority participation does nothing but create BS pass through companies. Seen it. Dealt with it.
4-Presently, specific to the materials I deal with, you can claim a "Produced in LA Preference". As long as you are within 10% (I think) of the low bidder, you are allowed to match that price IF you can prove that your materials are produced in LA. Great rule, but how many other materials are actually made in LA?? Not many.
5-US Army Corps of Eng has numerous seta aside programs like: DBE (different definition that DOTD), Small Business, Veteran Owned Business, HUB Zone (location), etc.
6-City of NO has a +/-36% mandatory DBE on EVERY project. Complete BS. See #3. The construction at the Airport right now is a clear example of what I am talking about.
7-LADOTD has mandatory DBE participation, but it fluctuate according to how many Federal Dollars are involved in that given project.
Hope this helps clarify some of the misconceptions regarding this crap. It better have helped, because all this did was aggravate me and my white male self.
2-I also would like to know how many options would be left if the parish/city had to buy from a minority owned business. Not many. "Sole specifying" is also illegal by Public Bid Law in LA. Even though there are ways around this.
3-Stating a minimum % minority participation does nothing but create BS pass through companies. Seen it. Dealt with it.
4-Presently, specific to the materials I deal with, you can claim a "Produced in LA Preference". As long as you are within 10% (I think) of the low bidder, you are allowed to match that price IF you can prove that your materials are produced in LA. Great rule, but how many other materials are actually made in LA?? Not many.
5-US Army Corps of Eng has numerous seta aside programs like: DBE (different definition that DOTD), Small Business, Veteran Owned Business, HUB Zone (location), etc.
6-City of NO has a +/-36% mandatory DBE on EVERY project. Complete BS. See #3. The construction at the Airport right now is a clear example of what I am talking about.
7-LADOTD has mandatory DBE participation, but it fluctuate according to how many Federal Dollars are involved in that given project.
Hope this helps clarify some of the misconceptions regarding this crap. It better have helped, because all this did was aggravate me and my white male self.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:03 am to TigersSEC2010
If only there were a large few plots of land with 10’s of thousands of people dedicated to studying things, conveniently located in Baton Rouge, that could take on some of this studying load.
Pay a consultant $50k to oversee a team of students compiling whatever data is needed.
I took a traffic engineering elective at Illinois where we used the actual traffic model for Champaign/Urbana IL. We would run various simulations (what if we put a 900 unit apartment complex here, a new gas station there, etc.....). The simulations were based on actual projects proposed.
Our professor advised on the board for whenever projects were being introduced in the area, and our simulations were used (in part) to counter any developer who wanted to use a bad traffic study to say “no, my 2000 unit apartment complex doesn’t require me to go spend $400k on road improvements”
The city/county has better information to fend off shady characters, students got real-life experience, and it didn’t cost tax payers a dime.
If only there were similar facilities in Baton Rouge that we could leverage and avoid blowing money on studies. Maybe, if one of those facilities were historically black this would also satisfy some sort of unwritten quota.
Pay a consultant $50k to oversee a team of students compiling whatever data is needed.
I took a traffic engineering elective at Illinois where we used the actual traffic model for Champaign/Urbana IL. We would run various simulations (what if we put a 900 unit apartment complex here, a new gas station there, etc.....). The simulations were based on actual projects proposed.
Our professor advised on the board for whenever projects were being introduced in the area, and our simulations were used (in part) to counter any developer who wanted to use a bad traffic study to say “no, my 2000 unit apartment complex doesn’t require me to go spend $400k on road improvements”
The city/county has better information to fend off shady characters, students got real-life experience, and it didn’t cost tax payers a dime.
If only there were similar facilities in Baton Rouge that we could leverage and avoid blowing money on studies. Maybe, if one of those facilities were historically black this would also satisfy some sort of unwritten quota.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:21 am to TigersSEC2010
Our parish leaders cannot make sure police officers, sheriffs deputy’s, or any city parish employee injured on the job is taken care of.
Our parish leaders do not have enough money to replace city police cars and other city parish property or assets that have been damaged in the 2016 flood.
Our parish leaders do not have enough money to clean ditches and fix drainage issues in this parish.
Hey, let’s spend $300,000 on a study to see if minority businesses are given a fair chance at bids in this parish!
Let’s see solid waste contract which will begin in March 2018 will not go to bid to help local minority businesses. It will be renewed without bid and given to a national company that gives small sections of the contract to a New Orleans based company. Wait until you see your 2019 rates and you will start thinking who is getting paid. Seems like we could give this small part of the contract to a local company instead.
How about the contract to tear down abandoned buildings going to Richard’s Disposal which is not a Baton Rouge based company while local companies do not have a fair shake. Seems like we could employ local companies to do this work. Yes, there are minority, locally owned demolition companies.
How about the sewer work in EBRP how many of these companies are not local doing this work? The last neighborhood I was in one contactor was from Mississippi and the next one that fixed their problems was not local either.
Seems like DPW is the largest violator of not helping local minority businesses.
Funny, if you look around you will see this is a $300k feel good measure or someone got paid off to do the study.
Our parish leaders do not have enough money to replace city police cars and other city parish property or assets that have been damaged in the 2016 flood.
Our parish leaders do not have enough money to clean ditches and fix drainage issues in this parish.
Hey, let’s spend $300,000 on a study to see if minority businesses are given a fair chance at bids in this parish!
Let’s see solid waste contract which will begin in March 2018 will not go to bid to help local minority businesses. It will be renewed without bid and given to a national company that gives small sections of the contract to a New Orleans based company. Wait until you see your 2019 rates and you will start thinking who is getting paid. Seems like we could give this small part of the contract to a local company instead.
How about the contract to tear down abandoned buildings going to Richard’s Disposal which is not a Baton Rouge based company while local companies do not have a fair shake. Seems like we could employ local companies to do this work. Yes, there are minority, locally owned demolition companies.
How about the sewer work in EBRP how many of these companies are not local doing this work? The last neighborhood I was in one contactor was from Mississippi and the next one that fixed their problems was not local either.
Seems like DPW is the largest violator of not helping local minority businesses.
Funny, if you look around you will see this is a $300k feel good measure or someone got paid off to do the study.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:39 am to TigersSEC2010
Will be voting for anybody that runs against Freiberg.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:40 am to TigersSEC2010
that's it. As soon as I can, I'm running for City Council. after I get chicken to delete my post history...
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:21 am to TigersSEC2010
reoccurring theme in BR:
publicly and shamelessly blaming the upper and middle class white people of BR for ruining everything and holding down BR AA’s, only to guilt the same white people to pay for these projects / studies benefitting only NBR AA’s.
it’s pretty incredible. And until the next mayoral election or BR City Council elections, there is nothing that can be done. You mofo’s better get out and vote next go round
publicly and shamelessly blaming the upper and middle class white people of BR for ruining everything and holding down BR AA’s, only to guilt the same white people to pay for these projects / studies benefitting only NBR AA’s.
it’s pretty incredible. And until the next mayoral election or BR City Council elections, there is nothing that can be done. You mofo’s better get out and vote next go round
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:32 am to LSU Delts
quote:
Summary
We want to do business with everyone except white male own businesses regardless of the increased cost, inability to fulfill said contracts and complete waste of taxdollars.
All in the name of diversity, all while being as openly racist as possible. frick SWB and anyone that agrees with anything she says or does.
BR Metro Council is no better than she is.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:33 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
Sounds like racism
That's exactly what it amounts to.
Broome's end game is making sure that black-owned businesses get preferential treatment when it comes to the awarding of city contracts.
She's trying to spin it as being good for local small businesses in general, but it's easy to see what her true objective is here.
By the way, is there any way that Chandler Loupe can be removed from the Metro Council? The dude is always conspicuously absent whenever the council votes on any potentially contentious issues.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:34 am to Klark Kent
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You mofo’s better get out and vote next go round
I don't know who can run against her and win. She already starts off with 40% of the vote locked. There are no inspiring conservative candidates in BR.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:37 am to LouisianaLonghorn
This person has a direct line to the mayor and her policies.
This 'study' is par for the course
This 'study' is par for the course
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:40 am to TigersSEC2010
quote:
I don't know who can run against her and win. She already starts off with 40% of the vote locked.
Kip Holden can beat her if he decides to run again.
Also, Broome's victory was helped by the fact that a large percentage of white voters in south BR didn't make it to the polls.
I'm hoping that will not happen next time, now that everyone has seen how truly incompetent Broome really is.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:44 am to LouisianaLonghorn
We need to lose Loupe.
I hope someone good runs and I'll back em.
I hope someone good runs and I'll back em.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:45 am to LSUJML
I am sure Troy Bell and his company will receive this money.
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