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re: BR Metro Council Funds $300,000 “Disparity” Study of City Contracts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:54 am to hawkster
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:54 am to hawkster
LOL.
And since we already know the predetermined outcome of the study, we can also safely assume the outcome of changes implemented due to the results of said study.
Gravy getting a Cadillac Escalade in the near future baby!!!!
And since we already know the predetermined outcome of the study, we can also safely assume the outcome of changes implemented due to the results of said study.
Gravy getting a Cadillac Escalade in the near future baby!!!!
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:03 pm to teke184
quote:
If the St George campaign were active,
Is it not?
And if not, why?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:21 pm to TigersSEC2010
are half of all businesses owned by minorities? Because that is the real number that matters here. It should be proportional to the number of businesses owned if they want to start doing governmental favors for people just because of the color of their skin
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:33 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:
$300,000
Gravy finna eat guud tonight!
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:06 pm to TaderSalad
I'm sure slim gonna get his cut
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:13 pm to SNAKERIVER
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What the heck did she do but vote against spending money on this worthless study? Barb Frieberg is everything we want in a public servant.
You can pretty much thank Barbara Frieberg and Chandler Loup for handing over taxpayer money to Fat Tarsha and her EBRCOA gang of thieves.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:16 pm to CharlesLSU
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Many southern cities have pretty stout DBE/HUB participation requirements including Houston at 23.7% goal which is always surpassed.
Houston is able to get to that % because of the many Spanish owned businesses.
I don't think Baton Rouge should be compared to Houston under any circumstances.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:22 pm to SNAKERIVER
quote:
What the heck did she do but vote against spending
money on this worthless study? Barb Frieberg is everything we want in a public servant.
Freiberg is a spineless bitch. She's a huge reason we still have to deal with Tarsha's bullshite because she's too scared to vote no to something black people want.
I can't wait for the next election. Her arse needs to be voted out ASAP.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:24 pm to Klark Kent
quote:
Gravy getting a Cadillac Escalade in the near future baby!!!!
Some repo guy is licking his lips right now
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:41 pm to MintBerry Crunch
quote:
are half of all businesses owned by minorities? Because that is the real number that matters here. It should be proportional to the number of businesses owned if they want to start doing governmental favors for people just because of the color of their skin
Exactly.
I just went through Gravy's list of black-owned businesses, and there is not a single one on there that the city-parish could do anything with. They're all clothing stores, small insurance agencies, a bakery, and Quarters. I would think that he'd feature the more prominent black-owned businesses, and so if that's the most prominent, there isn't much the city can do. I fear this study will lead to more sketchy contracts for the sake of giving it to a minority.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:07 pm to TDFreak
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How is that in the best interest of the tax payers if a minority own business owner subs out the work to another contractor and keeps a markup to themselves? Doesn’t that just make the work that more expensive while watering down accountability (read: finger pointing) at the same time?
I don't think the tax payers interest a concern.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:24 pm to TigersSEC2010
I've seen more racist studies on the quad.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:25 pm to TigersSEC2010
This is a giant corruption pussy just waiting to be fricked
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:30 pm to TigersSEC2010
I like how plenty of his people are just listed as an entrepreneur
Sounds legit
Sounds legit
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:32 pm to Deactived
Works at Wherever They Write Checks
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:18 pm to upgrayedd
I have so much value-added input on this nonsense but I'm too tired.
Griffin-Strong out of Atlanta will likely do the study. It will take 2-3 years to complete.
They'll have recommendations and do a study analysis that alleges racism at the governmental employee level, which is absurd. Like 45-60% of government employees are black.
They'll make absurd recommendations like creating mandatory requirements of 21% subcontractor to minority owned businesses.
Blacks will claim to be underrepresented but the easiest way to get a government contract is to have a construction company with a history of past performance. Black businesses claim they don't have a track record as a Prime, so they can't compete for Prime contracts. No duh. We have a 30M Design-Build contract with a strict budget. Who am I going to trust to do it right? The large business or Jethro three blocks over.
What is wanted by a large percentage of the agitators is to be given handouts. The ones who want sustainable change understand it's education and outreach that encourages Minority businesses and small businesses to participate in government contracts.
As you bring spend more local, costs rise. Upwards of 20+%. That's a fact, jack. One case, we moved from a local supplier of Office Supplies to Staples. We saved $250,000 over 4 years. We were paying 32% above what we should. The same is more prevalent in construction costs but with more risk.
This approach is not sustainable for many local governments. So, people want to not raise taxes but they also want spend to remain in their local communities. This isn't something that can just be corrected. They don't have the budgets to support it. The only ones who have the ability to deal with such risks and budget is the Feds, which is where these programs excel. If you can call it that.
The part that's most egregious to me is when they'll talk about the local government providing contract financing. Paying 20% of all costs upfront to minority-owned businesses. The government is not a bank and this runs counter to government procurement principles.
Griffin-Strong out of Atlanta will likely do the study. It will take 2-3 years to complete.
They'll have recommendations and do a study analysis that alleges racism at the governmental employee level, which is absurd. Like 45-60% of government employees are black.
They'll make absurd recommendations like creating mandatory requirements of 21% subcontractor to minority owned businesses.
Blacks will claim to be underrepresented but the easiest way to get a government contract is to have a construction company with a history of past performance. Black businesses claim they don't have a track record as a Prime, so they can't compete for Prime contracts. No duh. We have a 30M Design-Build contract with a strict budget. Who am I going to trust to do it right? The large business or Jethro three blocks over.
What is wanted by a large percentage of the agitators is to be given handouts. The ones who want sustainable change understand it's education and outreach that encourages Minority businesses and small businesses to participate in government contracts.
As you bring spend more local, costs rise. Upwards of 20+%. That's a fact, jack. One case, we moved from a local supplier of Office Supplies to Staples. We saved $250,000 over 4 years. We were paying 32% above what we should. The same is more prevalent in construction costs but with more risk.
This approach is not sustainable for many local governments. So, people want to not raise taxes but they also want spend to remain in their local communities. This isn't something that can just be corrected. They don't have the budgets to support it. The only ones who have the ability to deal with such risks and budget is the Feds, which is where these programs excel. If you can call it that.
The part that's most egregious to me is when they'll talk about the local government providing contract financing. Paying 20% of all costs upfront to minority-owned businesses. The government is not a bank and this runs counter to government procurement principles.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:22 pm to YoungManOldMan
Dude, we're talking about people who have no clue about finance or budgeting. They think paying 40% over cost is progress.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:32 pm to upgrayedd
Construction contracts should be held to a 10% profit threshold, though some local governments will allow 15% on general labor.
This guy Gravy is ignorant and doesn't understand the first thing about government contracts. He just wants a handout. I've been signing contracts at all levels of government for years and not once have I had a bakery, barber, restaurant, etc. come across my desk. If anything, small food purchases for events are spent on P-Cards and at the discretion of those buying because they're under the non-competitive threshold. Usually, that's $2-5K
Even the politicians are idiots and do not understand how procurement and contract negotiation works.
I had an elected official tell me once that we needed to create a "contract rotation program". You know what that is? It's fraud. They build a list minority-owned vendors and as a contract becomes available you hand them out to people on the list. I shite you not.
This guy Gravy is ignorant and doesn't understand the first thing about government contracts. He just wants a handout. I've been signing contracts at all levels of government for years and not once have I had a bakery, barber, restaurant, etc. come across my desk. If anything, small food purchases for events are spent on P-Cards and at the discretion of those buying because they're under the non-competitive threshold. Usually, that's $2-5K
Even the politicians are idiots and do not understand how procurement and contract negotiation works.
I had an elected official tell me once that we needed to create a "contract rotation program". You know what that is? It's fraud. They build a list minority-owned vendors and as a contract becomes available you hand them out to people on the list. I shite you not.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:40 pm to YoungManOldMan
Like I said, many of the people that are being tasked with economic development and government spending have absolutely no clue what they're doing. They think feel-good nonsense like this is progress for the community at large. There are going to be people going to jail over he nest several years for dealings like this. These people that think "contract rotation" is a good idea will absolutely get caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They legitimately don't think corruption, fraud, and waste is a big deal because they assume everyone does it.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:22 pm to Whataburger
Actually, my city contracts are mostly covered by women (WBE) and Asian based minorities.....you’d be surprised to know the HUBs are not primarily Hispanic.
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