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re: BR DA recusing his office from Sterling case

Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:56 am to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:56 am to
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Didn't the officer in Ferguson get off with the DOJ?


They tried every single officer in Baltimore, and I think many people would agree there was not enough evidence to prosecute those individuals. Sometimes, there is a political motive. In Baltimore, it blew up on Mosby but only after those officers endured a trial on the matter.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:57 am to
It's amazing how many young cops have connections these days.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:57 am to
A local DA has no business being involved in the prosecutions of local PDs. It is an obvious conflict of interest. You're asking him to be fair judging the people that he counts on for prosecutions. I'd rather a fair shake than a local one.

Fwiw I think the shooting was justified.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:58 am to
Well Baltimore was a little different because every officer was indicted by a grand jury.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:59 am to
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A local DA has no business being involved in the prosecutions of local PDs. It is an obvious conflict of interest. You're asking him to be fair judging the people that he counts on for prosecutions. I'd rather a fair shake than a local one.


A local DA absolutely has business doing that. You're basically saying a DA shouldn't handle hard cases. We should just let the feds handle every case if that's the policy we are most concerned with.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:59 am to
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Running scared from this one. While I understand his reticence to do his job, what good is having a district attorney if he's going to shrink from difficult cases in this community.


He has a long, personal relationship with the family of the cop that fired the shots to kill Sterling. If he were not to recuse himself, and the officer is not charged, can you imagine the uproar?

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The hallmark of our Republican form of government is that local disputes are resolved locally. Now we have a situation where local disputes that are complicated get turned over to unelected people outside of the community.


I completely agree. But you have to remember, they turned the case over to DOJ for investigation for the purposes of transparency and to help calm these protesters. DOJ can only bring forth federal charges, so if there aren't any federal charges the case is returned back to the 19th JDC and they'll assign a special prosecutor.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:00 pm to
Smart move regardless of the relationships involved.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:01 pm to
So you believe the DA office can or will be fair to basically investigate and prosecute their own? This is the right move.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26152 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Well Baltimore was a little different because every officer was indicted by a grand jury.


The Grand Jury was window-dressing. In fact, they actually eliminated some of the charges brought by Mosby. Mosby wanted those cops bad. The proof is in her press conference before all of the facts could have been reasonably known.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:02 pm to
I have no problem with this. It's a super high profile case and it's in his best judgement to get it out of his hands. Let the DOJ handle it. They will say it was justified anyway . So the riots will come and the local legal people won't be targeted.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Didn't the officer in Ferguson get off with the DOJ?


He did, but there was no video evidence either. Don't forget that they let him off but still issued a "well, the FPD is still racist" report. That's the lengths they go to in order to punish cops.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

So you believe the DA office can or will be fair to basically investigate and prosecute their own? This is the right move.


Well I certainly don't trust the DOJ to be fair.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:06 pm to
The funniest thing to me about all these protests, is that they have no purpose, no endgame. Nothing has even been decided.

They're just protesting just to protest.

I guess these are the same people who use emotion instead of logic when it comes to the killing itself, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26152 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:07 pm to
The Feds in Louisiana have given us such wonderful things as The VRA orders that basically disenfranchised St. George. A school deseg order that killed the EBR public school system, and the list goes on and on.

I'm glad everyone is eager to let the feds do their thing so our local public servants don't have to handle anything of consequence, but what will likely happen will resonate in this community long after these two officers learn their fate.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139215 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:08 pm to
It's not hard to get the uneducated masses whipped up into a frenzy. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:08 pm to
When the DOJ decides not to prosecute, they're the ones that will have to answer for it, not Hillar. He's a really smart guy and I've known him since he was my lawyer way back when. That speech was a disappointment because he is a much better speaker than that.

That being said, he makes the right decision almost all of the time
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26152 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

It's not hard to get the uneducated masses whipped up into a frenzy. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.



As a comedian once said, "It is easier than that. It is like having a barrel."
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
It would be one thing to turn the case over if he didn't have the personal relationship. Then criticism of not taking a tough case would be valid.
Posted by themunch
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72459 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
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for a hate crime.


when?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:10 pm to
Didnt he say that it would be the attorney general (of la) that would either prosecute, assign another DA from another jurisdiction or appoint a special prosecutor? Does the DoJ prosecute local criminal charges? At best they would only be looking into violations of civil rights?
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